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My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:00 pm

Does the suffering reduces day by day?
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby purple planet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:05 pm

yes and no - day by the only by a tiny bit - so little you dont even notice

suffering can come and go - be strong and weak

whats improtant is the long run

how do you know your improving ? by your behavior - thats how you know how advanced are others - if a monk gets angry you know his not good - or if he drinks or lies
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Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:08 pm

I really dont Think it come and goes
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby purple planet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:20 pm

if you do good and avoid bad than yes suffering is reduced day by day !!! even hour by hour - but only a tiny tiny bit - that you cant even notice

the best way to know is to see improvements in your behavior

you see improvement in your self control - if you are angry - you can let it go faster - than you suffer less - when you let it go you are calmer - and as you improve whenever your angry you dont attach to it and suffer for it but you let it go
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:22 pm

so how is it.. doesnt we Always makes progress? whatever we doing? i mean even if its a bad thing
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby purple planet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:24 pm

as long as you do good and avoid bad than you advance - if you dont do this than no
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:25 pm

what happends when I do a bad thing?
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:30 pm

Do you mean that sort of things is totally forbidden and it takes away merits, calm and so on (and you and I stop advancing ofcourse)?
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby purple planet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:37 pm

yes


you make bad kamma - and might get its bad result later
also you cause suffering -

when you avoid doing bad you not only dont cause suffering and bad kamma - you also create good kamma and develope good quality like equanimity and metta - you get calmer which in turn will make you more concentrated -

but all this thing usually are very subtle you cant "feel" it when you do the good thing
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Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:43 pm

okay.. I Believe Iam sure you have right. how do you know so much? :namaste:
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:44 pm

Is the only way to be able to proceed with own experience? of for example snuffusing.?
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby purple planet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:58 pm

its hard to stop bad habits and addictions- im no expert - it is important to know at least that addiction is not a good thing

in buddhism its all about dealing with reality - the more real the better - so we try to avoid doing things to "escape" reality -
thats why drugs and alcohol are so bad -

but any addiction isnt a good thing - reality is hard and not fun - thats why its so hard to observe it - to look at it - so we try to do are best and slowly we try to stop escaping reality and to look at it - and good deeds gives us more "power" to look at
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dont expect to feel great all the time - or to feel better - just make sure you do good and avoid bad and dont have greed to feel better - or aversion from the hard work we all have to do
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:15 pm

the more suffering the more fine results?
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Postby purple planet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:25 pm

the more suffering the more fine results?


no defiantly not - you should deal with reality - if you feel pain because of fire you should move your hand

if you have to work - than you should work and not stop cause you feel a little bored ) or if you need to clean the house you shouldn't not do it because your a little tired - you should deal with it and deal with this reality

it means to do what you think you should do - and not avoid it cause it feels a little hard
but you should look for "hard" stuff to do just because its hard

you go work for your dad to feel happy - maybe make money to live - or maybe to donate it

thats whats called the middle way - not to look for pain but also not to look for fun - to avoid these two extremes

if you work each day at a coal mine - and your body is aching - and your boss swears at you all day - and you get 1$ a month - its to hard to develope equanimity and metta this way - and you might try to look for a different job

if you stay at home all day and eat junk food and watch tv - its also not good

but if you have a normal job - not staying at home but not very very hard - that you can use it as a tool to deal with reality its good
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:45 pm

okay i see
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:54 pm

purple planet wrote:as long as you do good and avoid bad than you advance - if you dont do this than no

but is it like that that we sometimes do very very forbidden things but most of the time just good things but we fail to proceed much because we cant stop with our bad behaviour!
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:20 pm

I just realize that every single human is innocent. all beeings
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby purple planet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:41 pm

but is it like that that we sometimes do very very forbidden things but most of the time just good things but we fail to proceed much because we cant stop with our bad behaviour


we try to minimize our bad behavior and maximize our good - if you steal stuff all the time and do little good you cant expect to advance - but if once in month you shout at someone but after apologize and you do lots of good than you can advance
it depends on how much good how much bad you do

if you want to advance faster you should try to avoid bad stuff - the more we advance in the path the less bad stuff we do - the more good we do - the faster we advance
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby purple planet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:46 pm

another very important thing is to be sure you understand the 5 precepts - and that you dont take them to the extreme

1 - first precept - not to kill INTENTIONALLY - some people worry if they might step on a bug accidentally - and they cause themselves even more suffering - a good use of this precept - if a housefly lands on your arm - you dont kill it and you notice your anger that happens and you let it go and dont act by it

4 - fourth precept - avoid incorrect speech - the good way to use it is not to lie to people - a bad way to use it is for example to go to someone ugly and tell him his ugly

5 - fifth precept - avoid intoxicating drinks and drugs which leads to careless - some people stop using there mental medication - which is a great mistake - medication is to help solve chemical imbalances - people dont take them to get hi they do it for the health of their body the health of the brain organ - some people can go crazy cause of it and stop practicing and do bad actions just cause they stopped there medication - this people didnt understand this precept well - and are actually causing themselves more suffering

if you keep the five precepts than you will advance - if you break one precept than you should - know you made a mistake - do all you can to avoid it next time - and continue to do good deeds - like helping the family ect
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Re: My most importantant question

Postby Babadhari » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:13 pm

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Aflame with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion.
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......

Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28
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