Visual: Non-time-delineated model of Dependent Origination

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Re: Visual: Non-time-delineated model of Dependent Origination

Postby ground » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:48 am

I guess the time-delineated view and the non-time-delineated view are actually equally valid depending on the perspective of the subject: Being involved in one's own concept of what is called "time" and not being involved so (i.e. "timelessly" being aware) can be seen as a sort of flip-flop mechanism. The former corresponds generally to the teachings that refer to conventional, worldly view (e.g. "right view with effluents") and the latter to the teachings that refer to "supramundane" wisdom (e.g. "right view without effluents").

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Re: Visual: Non-time-delineated model of Dependent Origination

Postby Su Dongpo » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:07 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Some interesting thoughts on the non-time-delineated model of dependent origination from Ajahn Sumedho...

Extract from The Way It Is
http://www.amaravati.org/abmnew/documen ... 20moa.html

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Metta,
Retro. :)


Two related dhamma talks I have recently listened to for those interested in Sumedho and this topic --

http://www.dharmaseed.org/teacher/10/talk/5383/

http://www.dharmaseed.org/teacher/10/talk/8152/

There are many others by Sumedho at this site, as I am sure many of you already know. For those who don't know, you're in for a treat. :smile:

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Re: Visual: Non-time-delineated model of Dependent Origination

Postby PeterB » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:40 pm

That extract from The Way It Is is superb.
What a wondeful teacher LUANG POR or AJAHN Sumedho is...I hope he is enjoying his "retirement."

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Re: Visual: Non-time-delineated model of Dependent Origination

Postby Su Dongpo » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:35 pm

PeterB wrote:That extract from The Way It Is is superb.
What a wondeful teacher LUANG POR or AJAHN Sumedho is...I hope he is enjoying his "retirement."


I read only yesterday that he is living in Thailand as a "free agent" ... :jumping:

I hope he is happy. Actually, I am pretty sure that he is.

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Re: Visual: Non-time-delineated model of Dependent Origination

Postby Nibbida » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:25 pm

I find this very helpful. It's a lot of concepts to keep in one's head, so to see it laid out like this comprehensively is very useful. Thanks Retro.
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