assada (enjoyment), adinava (danger) and nissarana (escape) - what is the collective name for these concepts?
In case you don't understand what I'm asking: just as anicca, dukkha and anatta are called the "three marks of existence", how are assada adinava and nissarana called?
assada adinava and nissarana
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I don't know.
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Re: assada adinava and nissarana
enjoyment - attraction - liking
danger - aversion - disliking
escape - neither attraction or aversion - neutrality
therefore vedana?
Stretching it a bit, perhaps
danger - aversion - disliking
escape - neither attraction or aversion - neutrality
therefore vedana?
Stretching it a bit, perhaps
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Does there have to be a collective name, or are you merely asking someone to propose a possible name?
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Re: assada adinava and nissarana
I want to put these three (assada adinava and nissarana) in the Outline but don't know how the title/heading should be called. I am asking what the name is, not create a new one.Fede wrote:Does there have to be a collective name, or are you merely asking someone to propose a possible name?
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Re: assada adinava and nissarana
Greetings Stefan,
I've not heard of a collective term for these.
Perhaps you could align them with one of the vipassana nanas? Not sure, just an idea that came to mind.
Metta,
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I've not heard of a collective term for these.
Perhaps you could align them with one of the vipassana nanas? Not sure, just an idea that came to mind.
Metta,
Retro.
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My first check was with Maha Thera Nyanatiloka's Manual of Buddhist Terms and Doctrines, Buddhist Publication Society, and then google.
No luck with either one.
No luck with either one.
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Gosh, it's kinda interesting that this doesn't appear to have a name.
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Re: assada adinava and nissarana
Stefan wrote:assada (enjoyment), adinava (danger) and nissarana (escape) - what is the collective name for these concepts?
In case you don't understand what I'm asking: just as anicca, dukkha and anatta are called the "three marks of existence", how are assada adinava and nissarana called?
Where did you find these terms?
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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Hi Tilt,
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I think he is referring to passages like this:tiltbillings wrote: Where did you find these terms?
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MikeHe does not know, according to facts, the arising and ending of these feelings, nor the gratification, the danger and the escape, connected with these feelings.
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In case you don't understand what I'm asking: just as anicca, dukkha and anatta are called the "three marks of existence", how are assada adinava and nissarana called?
Where did you find these terms?
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I took the term "standpoints" from here. Does the "Three Standpoints" sound OK?
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Re: assada adinava and nissarana
Depends upon what you are trying to do. The "Three Standpoints" is not a traditional category. If you are cataloguing traditional categories, this is not one, but there is nothing to say that you cannot add to the traditional categories, drawing from the suttas, if you are not limiting yourself solely to what the tradition has listed.Stefan wrote:I took the term "standpoints" from here. Does the "Three Standpoints" sound OK?
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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I think Stefan's point is that "gratification, danger, and escape" is a traditional formula, but one apparently without a name. Does the Buddha ever use the term "three characteristics" or "three marks" or was that a name someone at a later time gave to the traditional formula of "anicca, dukkha, anatta"?
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Picky, picky, picky, picky. It is not a traditional listing that has been teased out of the texts and named by the tradition. Just for Stefan's own edification, it might worth doing a search of the canon to see how often those words are used together. There is nothing wrong with him adding these three words together as part of his catalogue and giving them a name. It all depends upon what he trying to do.Peter wrote:I think Stefan's point is that "gratification, danger, and escape" is a traditional formula, but one apparently without a name. Does the Buddha ever use the term "three characteristics" or "three marks" or was that a name someone at a later time gave to the traditional formula of "anicca, dukkha, anatta"?
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723