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Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

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Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

Postby smokey » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:13 pm

In Dhammapada (Brahmans) verse 412 it says: "He has gone beyond attachment here for both merit & evil — sorrowless, dustless, & pure: he's what I call a brahman."
So my question is: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

Postby rowyourboat » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:24 pm

I hesitate to answer 'yes' to that question. The point of the dhamma is not sila- it is vimutti/liberation (see the ratahavinita sutta). So if you ask me did the Buddha never say a harsh word- the answer is no- he did so, sometimes to get errant monks on to the right path. It was very pragmatic- with one aim in mind- the cessation of suffering. (not to say the end justified the means either) ..but catch-all phrases can be misleading..
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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:28 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

Postby smokey » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:30 pm

I think I may have found an answer to my question in Dhammapada, Chapter IX, verse 122.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

"Don't underestimate merit ('It won't amount to much'). A water jar fills, even with water falling in drops. With merit — even if bit by bit, habitually — the enlightened one fills himself full. "

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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:43 pm

Greetings Smokey,

I ask because the Buddha was often critical of wrong views and wrong actions because they were harmful, but not because they caused him any personal suffering.

Is that "omnibenevolent" in your book?

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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

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Re: Is every Buddha and Arahant omnibenevolent?

Postby smokey » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:08 pm

I am not enlightened so I have opinions, Buddhas have no opinions, so my opinion is that Buddhas and Arahants are omnibenevolent. They cannot purposely violate any of the precepts nor commit any wrong doing. If Buddha was often critical of wrong views that was of benevolent and good intention, so no harm was done.


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