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Kassapa Buddha

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:11 pm

Well I don't know exact rfrences in the canon to what a 'human' is, but hve seen philosophic descriptions which tend o ignore the phisicl aspect as this an cause biological humans to be considered inhuman an example of this is views of many europeans to africans and other aboriginal peoples when they first encountered them (so to speak in some cases) or the so called vegetables due to mental capaity, either from a degeneration from atural causes such as dsease or trauma, or a birth abnormality.
to clasify a human, o more precisely what a human is, is incredibly difficult especially when you considder (as must be) all he variations a bioogical human has both physically and mentally, would you cosider a psychopath to be human, or someone with Bi-polarefective disorder, or other psychological probem? or would you counider someone born with no legs human or missing other physical attributes common to humans, human? and what if they had extra limbs or a severe ondition such as elepant man, or other the man who is turning into a tree (as the program described him)?


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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby Thanavuddho » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:05 pm

“Tasmātihānanda, attadīpā viharatha attasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā, dhammadīpā dhammasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā.”(DN16)
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Re: Kassapa Buddha

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“Tasmātihānanda, attadīpā viharatha attasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā, dhammadīpā dhammasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā.”(DN16)
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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby Thanavuddho » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:45 pm

“Tasmātihānanda, attadīpā viharatha attasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā, dhammadīpā dhammasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā.”(DN16)
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Re: Kassapa Buddha

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby Thanavuddho » Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:07 pm

Hello all,

There has to be a logical and real answer to the original question. The answer has to be in accordance with the empirical science. I see no other possibility, there has to have been a previous Buddha before Samana Gotama. And there has to be a future Buddha as well.

I know these questions are somewhat irrelevant for the practice of Dhamma.

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:32 am

Hi
there are three posibilities.
1 - he lived at a time we have no hisorical evidence of events for the end of the last ice age is a good choice for this time, or even earler, as their ere huma being then and a sophisticated culture is known to of existed in Japan although there is ome evidence for cultures around the world existing around the coast of india and other places
2 - he wasn't a homosapian but anther species of the great ape family (see my post above)
3 - alian (again see my post above and the Dhammas which makes this posibility less likely)


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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby Individual » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:41 am

Isn't it also possible for a classification in Buddhism to be simply convoluted and beyond rational explanation?
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Re: Kassapa Buddha

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby Thanavuddho » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:51 pm

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby Thanavuddho » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:59 pm

“Tasmātihānanda, attadīpā viharatha attasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā, dhammadīpā dhammasaraṇā anaññasaraṇā.”(DN16)
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Re: Kassapa Buddha

Postby PeterB » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:08 pm

There is a tradition or what amounts to a tradition in the Indian subcontinent of adding lots of noughts to numbers as a way of emphasising a point. It is more a literary device than a precise mathmatically based statement. It is more frequently seen in the Vedas and in Mahayana Sutras where " a thousand or ten thousand or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands" type statements are commonplace. The Pali Canon is not free of this kind of device. For what its worth I was taught that Kassapa Buddha was born on this planet in an earlier era, and to emphasise the fact that it was along time before Shakyamuni Buddha the time scale was exaggerated.

Certainly these kind of questions although interesting are not of the essence. They dont help remove the arrow.

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

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Re: Kassapa Buddha

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