Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramitta development needed to be aryan?

Postby Brizzy » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:33 am

Ben wrote:Hi Venerable
has the "General Theravada Forum" become the "Sutta & Vinaya Only Forum"? Not that I know of.

Not that I know of either!
Thanks for your great reply. If you get the time, would you kindly translate the pali in your above post?
many thanks

Ben


Does anyone know of one? :stirthepot:

Ians of lifetimes, what a horrible thought :thinking:

If the ten paramis were of such vital importance, you would have thought that the Buddha might have mentioned them once or twice.

:smile:

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby Ben » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:44 am

Brizzy,
What is an Ian?

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramitta development needed to be aryan?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:02 am

Greetings,

Brizzy wrote:Does anyone know of one? :stirthepot:


Well, you could try the Early Buddhism sub-forum. It wasn't really established as a place to hide from later views, but could serve that purpose if you wanted it to.

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby Brizzy » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:03 am

Ben wrote:Brizzy,
What is an Ian?

Ben


It is a play on words.

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:07 am

Just so long as you weren't referring to...

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A few minutes of this Iain is painful enough, let alone countless of aeons of Ian.

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


Exalted in mind, just open and clearly aware, the recluse trained in the ways of the sages:
One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: Many lifetimes of paramitta development needed to be aryan?

Postby Brizzy » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:15 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Brizzy wrote:Does anyone know of one? :stirthepot:


Well, you could try the Early Buddhism sub-forum. It wasn't really established as a place to hide from later views, but could serve that purpose if you wanted it to.

Metta,
Retro. :)


Hi Retro

I've briefly checked it out. I dont think I could hide out there. :soap:

Thats one scary ensemble. Braces with jeans!

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby gene » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:15 am

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:I find it rather ironic that this thread has quickly become one of the longest threads on the forum.


:rofl:

I got this far and almost lost the will to live, let alone continue my practice. Think I will bail out of reading the remaining 15 pages. Thanks for saving me, Bhante. :tongue:

Interesting debate, though.

Cheers

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:49 am

gene wrote:
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:I find it rather ironic that this thread has quickly become one of the longest threads on the forum.


:rofl:

I got this far and almost lost the will to live, let alone continue my practice. Think I will bail out of reading the remaining 15 pages. Thanks for saving me, Bhante.

Interesting debate, though.

Cheers
You would have done well to stop after this msg: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3740&p=54503#p54503
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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:55 am

Greetings,

From the Dhammapada...

235-36. Like a withered leaf are you now; death's messengers await you. You stand on the eve of your departure, yet you have made no provision for your journey! Make an island for yourself! Strive hard and become wise! Rid of impurities and cleansed of stain, you shall enter the celestial abode of the Noble Ones.

237-38. Your life has come to an end now; You are setting forth into the presence of Yama, the king of death. No resting place is there for you on the way, yet you have made no provision for the journey! Make an island unto yourself! Strive hard and become wise! Rid of impurities and cleansed of stain, you shall not come again to birth and decay.


Source: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .budd.html

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


Exalted in mind, just open and clearly aware, the recluse trained in the ways of the sages:
One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby pelletboy » Sat May 14, 2011 6:49 am

Yes, I would ask why the ten paramis were not given emphasis by the Awakened One when it is the catalyst for achieving enlightenment.

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramita development needed to be aryan?

Postby Virgo » Sat May 14, 2011 3:40 pm

pelletboy wrote:Yes, I would ask why the ten paramis were not given emphasis by the Awakened One when it is the catalyst for achieving enlightenment.

Hello pelletboy. Maybe your thoughts aren't very clear on this. The Ten Parami are:

Dāna pāramī : generosity, giving of oneself
Sīla pāramī : virtue, morality, proper conduct
Nekkhamma pāramī : renunciation
Paññā pāramī : transcendental wisdom, insight
Viriya (also spelt vīriya) pāramī : energy, diligence, vigour, effort
Khanti pāramī : patience, tolerance, forbearance, acceptance, endurance
Sacca pāramī : truthfulness, honesty
Adhiṭṭhāna (adhitthana) pāramī : determination, resolution
Mettā pāramī : loving-kindness
Upekkhā (also spelt upekhā) pāramī : equanimity, serenity

The Buddha certainly gave a lot of emphasis to all of these. As the practical Path he taught the Eight-Fold Path. One who practices that will practice the perfections by way of it.

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Re: Many lifetimes of paramitta development needed to be aryan?

Postby icyteru » Sun May 22, 2011 1:36 am

Brizzy wrote:
Ben wrote:Hi Venerable
has the "General Theravada Forum" become the "Sutta & Vinaya Only Forum"? Not that I know of.

Not that I know of either!
Thanks for your great reply. If you get the time, would you kindly translate the pali in your above post?
many thanks

Ben


Does anyone know of one? :stirthepot:

Ians of lifetimes, what a horrible thought :thinking:

If the ten paramis were of such vital importance, you would have thought that the Buddha might have mentioned them once or twice.

:smile:


of course. you can read it in jataka and buddhavamsa.
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