Alex123 wrote:If you mean when the Arahant dies
Thanks for the reply. I didn't quite mean that, as I feel that the question is wonderfully addressed by Sariputta in the Yamaka Sutta you linked.
Now, at that time this evil supposition had arisen to Ven. Yamaka: "As I understand the Teaching explained by the Blessed One, a monk with no more (mental) effluents, on the break-up of the body, is annihilated, perishes, & does not exist after death."
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
"And so, my friend Yamaka — when you can't pin down the Tathagata as a truth or reality even in the present life — is it proper for you to declare, 'As I understand the Teaching explained by the Blessed One, a monk with no more effluents, on the break-up of the body, is annihilated, perishes, & does not exist after death'?"
The question was rather a difficult one (I admit).
Vincent, I was intrigued by this:
It is doubtful whether 'vinnana' really means consciousness - perhaps it means a certain kind of knowing. A knowing in terms of self?
Very plausible explanation.
At the end of the Kevatta Sutta we have the following:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... n.html#t-1
Consciousness without feature,
luminous all around:
Here water, earth, fire, & wind
have no footing.
Here long & short
coarse & fine
fair & foul
name & form
are all brought to an end.
With the cessation of [the activity of] consciousness
each is here brought to an end.
Could the cessation of the activity of consciousness simply mean the cessation of the fabricated self and of suffering? In the footnotes we find:
Viññanam anidassanam. This term is nowhere explained in the Canon, although MN 49 mentions that it "does not partake in the allness of the All" — the "All" meaning the six internal and six external sense media (see SN 35.23). In this it differs from the consciousness factor in dependent co-arising, which is defined in terms of the six sense media. Lying outside of time and space, it would also not come under the consciousness-aggregate, which covers all consciousness near and far; past, present, and future.
Many thanks for the replies.