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Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

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Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

Postby Sucitto » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:10 am

Namo Buddhaya,
I am just thinking about the Hinayana and Theravada Buddhism. I've ever read a Buddhist book about history of Buddhist which said The Hinayana Buddhist had gone in India and the teaching of Buddha was brought to Sri Lanka and finally, became Theravada Buddhism.
So, my question are "If that's true, why the Hinayana Buddhism was gone?" & "what is the different of Hinayana Buddhism and Theravada Buddhism?"

I hope anybody can tell me clearly.
Thank you & Anumodana. :anjali:

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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

Postby Virgo » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:20 am

In India there were various sects. Some were classified as hinayana, some were classified as mahayana.

India disappeared from mainland India for a number of reasons, including the Muslim invasions.

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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:02 am

Hello,
This has probably been gone over more than enough here, with plenty of info and threads to pick from, just do a quick search for the term, may be best. the search box is in the top right of the screen.


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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

Postby cooran » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:26 am

Hello Sucitto,

These articles may be of interest:

The myth of Hinayana - Kare A. Lie
http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/ebdha140.htm

Mahayana and Hinayana - Ven. Abhinyana
http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/ebdha188.htm

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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

Postby BlackBird » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:50 am

To cut a long etymological story short 'hina' in the Sanskrit is a pretty nasty word. The word developed less scornful connotations over the centuries, due in no small part, I would venture, for the need of a doctrinal phrase less in contradiction with the whole bodhicitta thing. Indeed the word itself in the Chinese, Japanese and Tibetan simply means 'small' or 'lesser' which to me reflects a shift in polemic theology.

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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

Postby karuna_murti » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:58 pm

Actually Buddha use the word "hīno" when refering to the two extreme path.

‘‘dveme, bhikkhave, antā pabbajitena na sevitabbā. Katame dve? Yo cāyaṃ kāmesu kāmasukhallikānuyogo hīno gammo pothujjaniko anariyo anatthasaṃhito, yo cāyaṃ attakilamathānuyogo dukkho anariyo anatthasaṃhito. Ete kho, bhikkhave, ubho ante anupagamma majjhimā paṭipadā tathāgatena abhisambuddhā cakkhukaraṇī ñāṇakaraṇī upasamāya abhiññāya sambodhāya nibbānāya saṃvattati’

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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

Postby cooran » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:48 pm

Hello all,

EXCERPT: Theravada - Mahayana Buddhism Ven. Dr. W. Rahula
(From: "Gems of Buddhist Wisdom", Buddhist Missionary Society, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, 1996)

We must not confuse Hinayana with Theravada because the terms are not synonymous. Theravada Buddhism went to Sri Lanka during the 3rd Century B.C. when there was no Mahayana at all.
Hinayana sects developed in India and had an existence independent from the form of Buddhism existing in Sri Lanka.
Today there is no Hinayana sect in existence anywhere in the world.
Therefore, in 1950 the World Fellowship of Buddhists inaugurated in Colombo unanimously decided that the term Hinayana should be dropped when referring to Buddhism existing today in Sri Lanka, Thailand, Burma, Cambodia, Laos, etc.
http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma3/theramaya.html

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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

Postby Bankei » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:23 am

I think the term Hinayana is used differently by different people.

To some Hinayana means any non-mahayana school such as Sarvastivada, Dharmaguptaka, Theravada etc. Theravada is only one of the Hinayana schools. Some say it is the only surviving Hinayana school, but the Mula-sarvastivada and Dharmaguptaka lineages survive to this day as all Mahayana Bhikkhu belong to one of these schools - although they may not hold the philosophical ideas of the school.

Another use of Hinayana is a generic term used in some Mahayana works to despise a certain group of Buddhists. This may not actually refer to any specific schools in existent then or now.

A for Cooran's statement by Dr Rahula Walpoha, this can't be correct. Some early Chinese translations of Mahayana works occurred around the year 150AD. Therefore Mahayana must have been in existence well before then. There were also several non-Theravada schools in Sri-Lanka as well as Mahayana schools. The Chinese Bhikkhuni lineage was said to have started from the Mahisasaka school of Sri Lanka.
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Re: Differences Hinayana & Theravada Buddhism

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