Pannapetar wrote:Who needs books?
There are two ways to know Buddhavacana - one is to "hear" it, either in books or quoted by one's teacher. The other way is to become a Buddha yourself. You do not need suttas if you intend to follow the second of those options, so good luck with that.
Your repeated unwillingness to quote sutta, combined with your fervent willingness for telling us what you think, does not make for a particularly balanced conversation. It is not unreasonable in a Theravada forum to be challenged to find textual support for one's views. It is very important in a Theravada forum for readers to be able to distinguish between Buddhavacana and a worldling's personal opinions.
Pannapetar wrote:It can be substantiated by practice. All the text you ever need to read is the four noble truths and the eightfold path.
Don't say that, Pannapetar. Don't say that. Deep is this dependent co-arising, and deep its appearance. It's because of not understanding and not penetrating this Dhamma that this generation is like a tangled skein, a knotted ball of string, like matted rushes and reeds, and does not go beyond transmigration, beyond the planes of deprivation, woe, and bad destinations.
If it were as easy as you suggest, why is the Earth not abound with arahants?
Pannapetar wrote:When you crave something, it is because of the (false) belief that the attainment of that thing makes you happy or solves your problems.
Which is true as far as it goes, but that does not teach you anatta.
Pannapetar wrote:You cannot address ignorance directly, because it is -by definition- hidden and invisible to you.
You can be aware of how formations come to be formed with ignorance as condition.
Pannapetar wrote:However, you can address your cravings because your cravings are visible and known to you. Hence, craving is the "predetermined breaking point". That's where you put your fingers and start to tear up the packaging.
So you say. Here's something that someone said this morning at FreeSangha which I think is relevant...
ABC wrote:It follows one reason the Buddha taught dependent origination was the ellucidate the origin of dukkha back to ignorance.
It is not easy fighting dukkha from craving & attachment.
If I see the most beautiful girl in the world, it is not easy to end craving by the understanding craving is the cause of dukkha.
To end craving for the most beautiful girl in the world requires wisdom. It requires ending ignorance.