Most important bit of dharma?

A discussion on all aspects of Theravāda Buddhism

Most important bit of dharma?

Postby Spiny Norman » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:38 am

What in your view is the most important bit of dharma?

Please select one item only from the various lists, eg one element from the 8-fold path, or one of the 3 characteristics or 5 precepts, etc.

I'm going for the 3rd Noble Truth. :smile:

P
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
User avatar
Spiny Norman
 
Posts: 2768
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:32 am
Location: Spam, wonderful spam

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:40 am

Mindfulness
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
User avatar
tiltbillings
 
Posts: 19636
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby appicchato » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:36 am

...,purify the mind...
User avatar
appicchato
 
Posts: 1600
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:47 am
Location: Bridge on the River Kwae

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby Stephen K » Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:35 pm

Dispassion
With metta,
Upāsaka Sumana
User avatar
Stephen K
 
Posts: 785
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:53 pm

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby bodom » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:04 pm

Non-self

:anjali:
The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah
User avatar
bodom
 
Posts: 4622
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:18 pm
Location: San Antonio, Texas

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby PeterB » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:15 pm

porpoise wrote:What in your view is the most important bit of dharma?

Please select one item only from the various lists, eg one element from the 8-fold path, or one of the 3 characteristics or 5 precepts, etc.

I'm going for the 3rd Noble Truth. :smile:

P

Its all of a piece, a seamless whole.
PeterB
 
Posts: 3903
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:35 pm

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:37 pm

How can I choose only one?

Okay, easy:

Samma Ditthi (Right Understanding)

That covers everything; understanding of the Four Noble Truths, the way to end suffering, and the Path out of suffering. :tongue:
User avatar
David N. Snyder
Site Admin
 
Posts: 8130
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:15 am
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby OcTavO » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:15 pm

The Buddha seemed to hint that Paticca-samuppada what the single most important concept of understanding the Dhamma.

But with the state of the world at present, I'd have to say the most important thing the Dhamma has to offer right now is Compassion.
User avatar
OcTavO
 
Posts: 101
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:27 am

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby adosa » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:38 pm

Kindness.........(thank you, Dalai),


adosa
"To avoid all evil, to cultivate good, and to cleanse one's mind — this is the teaching of the Buddhas" - Dhammapada 183
User avatar
adosa
 
Posts: 263
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:08 pm

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby martin.bara1 » Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:51 pm

having questions that moves you toward enlightenment ;)
User avatar
martin.bara1
 
Posts: 5
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:21 am
Location: Slovakia, Central Europe

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby dhamma_spoon » Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:57 pm

tiltbillings wrote:Mindfulness


Hi, Tiltbillings -
how about heedfulness (apamada)? :yingyang:

Tep
----
A soup spoon does not know the taste of the soup.
A dhamma spoon does not know the taste of the Dhamma!
User avatar
dhamma_spoon
 
Posts: 145
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:12 pm

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby IanAnd » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:07 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:How can I choose only one?

Okay, easy:
Samma Ditthi (Right Understanding)

That covers everything; understanding of the Four Noble Truths, the way to end suffering, and the Path out of suffering. :tongue:

David is correct here. There is no "one most important" item of Dhamma that can be deemed the most important. The practice of the Dhamma is a response to a process: a process that is made up of many moving parts, the process of being born into the physical realms with a body and a mind. Every element of that process must be addressed if the "person" is to become "free" from the constraint that can be imposed upon it through ignorance of how that process works. So, in this respect, David is absolutely correct to point out the dependent (further hint, hint) nature of the process itself. :bow:

That said and properly digested, my first thought is to agree with Tilt and "mindfulness." That is, mindfulness based upon a "correct understanding" (samma ditthi, with thanks to David) of several other factors that make up the teaching of the Dhamma. Within that context, then, mindfulness is unquestionably indispensable, as it informs our every moment of activity. Yet, as mentioned before, with the caveat that the whole of this process is kept in mind.
"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV
User avatar
IanAnd
 
Posts: 399
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:19 am
Location: the deserts of Arizona

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:14 pm

The most important bit is the one that you're able to make use of at the moment.
AIM WebsitePāli FontsIn This Very LifeBuddhist ChroniclesSoftware (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)
User avatar
Bhikkhu Pesala
 
Posts: 2041
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:17 pm

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby Kenshou » Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:38 pm

OcTavO wrote:
But with the state of the world at present, I'd have to say the most important thing the Dhamma has to offer right now is Compassion.


Hmm, what exactly do you mean by that? The dhamma doesn't work anymore and so we should just work on gaining merit? Or, people these days are nastier than they used to be, so we better put alotta extra effort into counteracting that? Or we're all more depressed so we should be kinder? For what reason is compassion more important than in the past?

Though I wasn't there to know for myself, I sort of doubt that the human mind is all that different for the better or worse than how it used to be.

Don't mind me, just probing.
Kenshou
 
Posts: 1029
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:03 am
Location: Minneapolis, MN

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby acinteyyo » Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:51 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:The most important bit is the one that you're able to make use of at the moment.

very :goodpost: :anjali:
Pubbe cāhaṃ bhikkhave, etarahi ca dukkhañceva paññāpemi, dukkhassa ca nirodhaṃ. (M.22)
Api cāhaṃ, āvuso, imasmiṃyeva byāmamatte kaḷevare, sasaññimhi samanake lokañca paññāpemi lokasamudayañca lokanirodhañca lokanirodhagāminiñca paṭipadan. (AN4.45)

:anjali:
User avatar
acinteyyo
 
Posts: 1032
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:48 am
Location: Neuburg/Donau, Germany

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby Anicca » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:15 pm

No disagreement with any of the other posts - only adding this because it hasn't made the list yet - and it is the one reason i logon to Dhamma Wheel

association with wisdom

Metta
Anicca
 
Posts: 393
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:11 am
Location: Edmond, Oklahoma

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby OcTavO » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:11 pm

Kenshou wrote:Hmm, what exactly do you mean by that? The dhamma doesn't work anymore and so we should just work on gaining merit? Or, people these days are nastier than they used to be, so we better put alotta extra effort into counteracting that? Or we're all more depressed so we should be kinder? For what reason is compassion more important than in the past?


The world population is approaching 7 billion and the rate of increase is accelerating. We'll likely reach 10 billion by the middle of this century. Global resources are taxed further each day. Life is different these days, extending far beyond the family/tribal or local-geographical unit. We're interwoven and interdependent in ways we never were before. Now an event in one country can topple and cause hardship throughout the rest of the world (the sub-prime mortgage collapse for example). I agree with you that the human mind likely remains essentially unchanged today than it was in times past, but the circumstances in which it finds itself are dramatically changed. This is why I think more compassion is relevant to the age.
User avatar
OcTavO
 
Posts: 101
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:27 am

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby Moggalana » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:19 pm

Excellent suggestions so far. Another one:
Upaddha Sutta, SN 45.2 wrote:'Lord, this spiritual friendship, spiritual companionship and spiritual intimacy is no less than half of the spiritual life.' 'Say not so, Ananda,' the Buddha replies. 'It is the whole, not the half of the spiritual life.'
Let it come. Let it be. Let it go.
Moggalana
 
Posts: 331
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:31 am
Location: Germany

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby Kenshou » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:01 pm

OcTavO wrote: We're interwoven and interdependent in ways we never were before.


Good point there. That has ramifications far beyond simply compassion, but since this is a short-answer sort of thread I shouldn't gripe about that. :tongue:
Kenshou
 
Posts: 1029
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:03 am
Location: Minneapolis, MN

Re: Most important bit of dharma?

Postby Spiny Norman » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:26 am

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:The most important bit is the one that you're able to make use of at the moment.


:clap:
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
User avatar
Spiny Norman
 
Posts: 2768
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:32 am
Location: Spam, wonderful spam

Next

Return to General Theravāda discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], waryoffolly and 8 guests