I was thinking about these interesting questions.
"Dependent on the eye & forms there arises consciousness at the eye. "
1) "Cakkhuñca paṭicca rūpe ca uppajjati cakkhuviññāṇaṃ"
"Dependent on the intellect & ideas there arises consciousness at the intellect. "
2) "manañca paṭicca dhamme ca uppajjati manoviññāṇaṃ"
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Can one see a form or the eye (rūpa or Cakkhu) prior to eye-consciousness (cakkhuviññāṇaṃ)?
One could only say that as an imagination in the mind, which brings to another part of the question:
Can one know object of the mind (dhamma) prior to Mind consciousness (manoviññāṇaṃ)?
So it appears that what we have is that we know only consciousness and more complex mental states. It appears that even the conditional chart of sense organ + sense object = consciousness is a mental construct that isn't cognized until manoviññāṇaṃ.
Any comments, ideas?