chandrafabian wrote:jcsuperstar wrote:chandrafabian wrote:, there are only mind and body processes.
agreedNo Individual entity, no personal entity,
i see these as a self, not a soul
when i think of a soul i think of some magic white ball that is inside me that goes to heaven or whatever when i die. i guess, i really have no idea what a soul is, however like i said i understand what a self is (or is not as the case may be). if not believing in a soul is a big deal i think many many people would be far along the path, since many people would probably have the same idea as me as to what a soul is. however the idea of a self is a hard thing to rid one self of. I making, me making mine making these are hard habits to break, the belief in some thing that may or may not be in me or is me or whatever, not too hard a thing to give up. i can guarantee you right now i have no soul belief yet i still create a self on a regular basis and suffer from it.
Dear JC, I think we must understand the etymology of the word atta or atman in Indian phylosophy, in Indian phylosophy atta or atman is a kind of "eternal entity". The Buddha in His Sermon many times mention anatta as refusal of Brahmanism which believe of this "eternal entity".
the Buddha often used words differently than other Indian religions and philosophies, take kamma for instance. and in this instance i believe the Buddha's teaching on anatta go further than just denying some eternal entity, to include any creation of I, me and mine (a self). i think it's plain to see that we suffer far more because we think "i am this.... or i am that..." and live our lives dependant upon how this or that is treated in relation to how we believe this or that should be treated. or that this or that should have this thing or that thing. this leads to craving which leads to suffering. like i said i don't have any belief in an eternal entity, yet i suffer, so a problem thus arises with seeing atta as just an eternal entity, it must be something either different or more. also anicca should cover the debunking of an eternal entity without the need for anatta since impermanence would contradict the eternal nature of a soul.