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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

Postby bodom » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:06 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

Postby Fede » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:04 am

"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

Postby octathlon » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:26 pm

Hi Fede,

I really wasn't trying to up an ante. I didn't dispute the correctness of your original statement or intend my post to be a personal attack on you. My reaction was an "ego-feeling-insulted response" about a perceived attitude in the way you expressed it--that word "optional", which I pointed out was only a perception. Sometimes I feel intense compassion for others, but other times I find it very difficult to feel any compassion. I feel guilty about that so I may have been projecting when I reacted to your statement. I wanted to stick up for all those people for whom, in our present state, it isn't optional.

The second one about not moaning and having a hissy fit about a cut, though, I did feel was trivializing the issue. :shrug:

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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

Postby Fede » Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:43 pm

tell you what - I'll say one our father and three hail Marys, if you say three Our fathers and one Hail Mary, how's that?

let's let it go. :hug:
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

Postby Sunrise » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:41 am

There is no need to quote suttas and the "History of Buddhist Philosophy" to state a simple fact that physical pain is pain. When the Buddha stuck his leg on a stone he would have felt pain. He had a nerves system.

Point is, there is a difference between phyiscal pain and the associated mental suffering. Suffering is associated with mental activities for the most part. The Buddha had said "although the body is old and sick there is no need for the mind to be sick". The buddha dwelt in peace which arose from relinquishment despite the fact that he experienced bodily pain. Practice is not centered on parinibbana but nibbana

I do not wish to discuss this any longer as I am repeating myself

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Re: Big square of rebirth in small round Xs

Postby Fede » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:16 am

I'm sorry...Isn't this exactly the same discussion Octathlon and I were having....?

I guess the term "lost in Translation" might be appropriate here, but if everybody agrees that there is a difference between the perceived, felt and noted physical "ouch" pain, and the psychologically unnecessary 'pain' of emotionally dwelling on the wound - then what exactly is the issue? If we all know what we mean, isn't that enough?

Or am I just being extraordinarily naive, here?
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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