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Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby vitellius » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:45 am

Dear friends,

I wonder if anti-mosquito vaporizers kill them?

It seems that mosquito coils do, as they contain an insecticide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquito_coil
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby vitellius » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:55 am

Anyone wondered about that? :)
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Paññāsikhara » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:44 am

Do they vaporize the mosquito, or vaporize some other substance, which is either a repellent (non-lethal), or poison (lethal)?
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Dan74 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:37 am

There are different sorts. I have come across sandalwood sticks and lavender oil ones which are natural repellents.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:47 am

Dan74 wrote:There are different sorts. I have come across sandalwood sticks and lavender oil ones which are natural repellents.

This is a range of products including incenses called Colibri ( I think) which smell nice...lemony....and which repel insects.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Individual » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:20 pm

I will never understand why making insects be homeless and starve to death is more compassionate than a brief swat.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Annapurna » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:12 pm

Hey, Individual!

When I don't get food in one shop, it doesn't make me homeless, nor will I starve. I'll just go to another one.

Mosquitos too. ;)
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Individual » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:37 pm

Annapurna wrote:Hey, Individual!

When I don't get food in one shop, it doesn't make me homeless, nor will I starve. I'll just go to another one.

Mosquitos too. ;)

So it's OK to force insects to leave your home, because they will just go and bother somebody else.

If the shoplifter doesn't learn his lesson or go to jail, there's no long-term gain if he leaves your store without stealing anything.

On top of this, it is disputable whether insects should be regarded as "sentient beings," or if they are something more like plants or bacteria. Because invertebrates (creatures without a spine) have less advanced nervous systems, so they may not have a capacity for suffering.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Annapurna » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:20 pm

Individual wrote:
Annapurna wrote:Hey, Individual!

When I don't get food in one shop, it doesn't make me homeless, nor will I starve. I'll just go to another one.

Mosquitos too. ;)

So it's OK to force insects to leave your home, because they will just go and bother somebody else.

If the shoplifter doesn't learn his lesson or go to jail, there's no long-term gain if he leaves your store without stealing anything.

On top of this, it is disputable whether insects should be regarded as "sentient beings," or if they are something more like plants or bacteria. Because invertebrates (creatures without a spine) have less advanced nervous systems, so they may not have a capacity for suffering.



So it's OK to force insects to leave your home, because they will just go and bother somebody else.


Sure. :smile: I solve my problems, and they solve theirs. 8-)

I catch mine and carry them out. I talk to them: "Don't be scared, its just a free ride in a glass." I even think they understand because then they sit down and don't want to come out. :D

On top of this, it is disputable whether insects should be regarded as "sentient beings," or if they are something more like plants or bacteria. Because invertebrates (creatures without a spine) have less advanced nervous systems, so they may not have a capacity for suffering


I'm a 100 % sure they are sentient. Think of eyes. Eyes are a sense faculty. They have big eyes and see you coming. They fear you kill them and try to fly away.

All this constitutes sentience.

But you definitely have more sentience than a mosquito. Your nervous system is far more evolved than a mosquitos.

Still, we shouldn't think of our own suffering too highly, and too lowly of theirs.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Alexei » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:29 pm

Individual wrote:starve to death


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Both male and female mosquitoes are nectar feeders, but the females of many species are also capable of drinking blood from many mammals. Females do not require blood for their own survival, but they do need supplemental substances such as protein and iron to develop eggs.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Hanzze » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:05 pm

Oleksandr wrote:Dear friends,

I wonder if anti-mosquito vaporizers kill them?

It seems that mosquito coils do, as they contain an insecticide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquito_coil


What is the reason for the question? :-)
Just that! *smile*
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby vitellius » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:08 am

Hanzze wrote:What is the reason for the question? :-)


It is obvious: I don't want to be bitten by mosquitoes and don't want to kill them.

Anyway, I haven't yet found an answer to my question.

And if we talk about repellents, what will they do to a mosquito if he's not able to escape from the room and have to breath this repellent?

It seems that I need to find a biologist to ask him :)
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Ben » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:25 am

Hi Oleksandr

A repellant repels. It doesn't kill. It just causes discomfort if the insect gets close to the repellant agent.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:49 am

Oleksandr wrote:
Hanzze wrote:What is the reason for the question? :-)[/quote
It is obvious: I don't want to be bitten by mosquitoes and don't want to kill them.

why do you like to be not bitten?
Just that! *smile*
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:02 am

Ben wrote:It doesn't kill.
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As you have it already and all to run it. But its producing, its refilling the energy for it, its transport and so on even blogging the answers and questions here kills. Therefor, why do you like to be not bitten? What is the root of the problem? Solving in the thought way does not work.
Just that! *smile*
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Ben » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:14 am

Hanzze wrote:
Ben wrote:It doesn't kill.
Ben

As you have it already and all to run it. But its producing, its refilling the energy for it, its transport and so on even blogging the answers and questions here kills. Therefor, why do you like to be not bitten? What is the root of the problem? Solving in the thought way does not work.


Given you are living in a country where malaria, japanese encephalytis,dengue fever and many other mosquito-borne viruses and parasites are endemic, I find your question astounding.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Annapurna » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:16 am

Oleksandr wrote:
Hanzze wrote:What is the reason for the question? :-)


It is obvious: I don't want to be bitten by mosquitoes and don't want to kill them.

Anyway, I haven't yet found an answer to my question.

And if we talk about repellents, what will they do to a mosquito if he's not able to escape from the room and have to breath this repellent?

It seems that I need to find a biologist to ask him :)


Olexandr, the mosquito will feel like us when we smell "stink", perhaps less consciuosly so.

When you air your rooms regularly, with windows wide open when it is warm, for like 10 minutes, they usually find their way out.

The smartest thing to do would be to attach a transparent textile fly screen to windows.

Cheap ready to use fabric can be bought in drugstores and supermarkets here, you just attach it to the inner frame and closing the window is still possible.

I'm sure you can order it online was well.

All the mosquitoes that are locked in, you catch with a glass and a postcard, and carry them out.

I have no problems with mosquitos this way.

Actually, I don't even have fly screens.

Oh, and quite important:

As soon as you use electrical light, you need to close all unprotected windows.
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:30 am

Ben wrote:
Hanzze wrote:Given you are living in a country where malaria, japanese encephalytis,dengue fever and many other mosquito-borne viruses and parasites are endemic, I find your question astounding.

If I would think on all of that, I would not be able to practice Buddhism here in Cambodia.
But yes, fear is running us! Why?
Just that! *smile*
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Hanzze » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:48 am

As we western are very skill full of the wisdom on the second step, both, compassion and wisdom is needed to bring us back to our practices in daily life. Wisdom and our thought of reach a lot of it dives us to stuck.
This wisdom had created an amazing complex system of easy visibly (if not ignored) cause and effect on our planet.
The solution is causing an other problem, it a next, it an other and we are wonder why we suffer if we see the news of an environmental catastrophe on the other side of the planet.
As I sit here next to the danger of all the sickness, I am remembered: Is it useful to write here? What is the pain of the mosquito-bite out of?
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I think it is useful to keep compassion as high as possible. If we just close the window wile we are turning on the light, we do not take care what the want of the light is causing. "What I do not see is not real"

Mosquitos are one of the best teachers. I always remember my self to honor them as I see anger arises. :-) It is quite often here :-)
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Re: Do vaporizers kill mosquitoes?

Postby Annapurna » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:50 pm

Hanzze, what you are quoting is not by me. Please edit it.
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