The layman Sudatta, Ananda, through the destruction of the three fetters (self-belief, doubt, and faith in the efficacy of rituals and observances), and the lessening of lust, hatred, and delusion, has become a once-returner and is bound to make an end of suffering after having returned but once more to this world.
“The laywoman Sujata, Ananda, through the destruction of the three fetters has become a stream-enterer, and is safe from falling into the states of misery, assured, and bound for Enlightenment.
“The layman Kakudha, Ananda, through the destruction of the five lower fetters (that bind beings to the world of the senses), has arisen spontaneously (among the Suddhavasa deities), and will come to final cessation in that very place, not liable to return from that world.
“So it is with Kalinga, Nikata, Katissabha, Tuttha, Santuttha, Bhadda, and Subhadda, and with more than fifty laymen in Nadika. More than ninety laymen who have passed away in Nadika, Ananda, through the destruction of the three fetters, and the lessening of lust, hatred, and delusion, have become once-returners and are bound to make an end of suffering after having returned but once more to this world
Kenshou wrote:Just a thought, I would think that lay life would get easier as one progresses. Less craving and delusion, less dukkha, less ego, less problems caused. If that (partial) awakening can't deal with daily duties, what kind of awakening is that? Even monks have work to do.
But then again the life they live is also a factor, not every lay life is the same. Though it makes sense to me that the lay livelihood of a non-returner would in all likelihood be simpler than that of a different person.
gerard wrote:Kenshou wrote:I never suggested otherwise. But thanks for your unneeded advice.
My line of thinking is merely that the more one progresses the more one's suffering will be reduced, and so life will be able to be handled with a bit more ease.
It will be reduced because you simply don't care anymore as a result of losing your socially constructed "self" and attachment to phenomena which as we all know are impermanent. You become the observer instead of another player.
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