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Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:22 pm

Hi All,

I have heard some criticisms of late of Bhante Vimalaramsi and would be interested in hearing why some people have an issue or issues with him. I haven't heard him personally attack any other teachers so would appreciate links to the same if possible. In addition, his techniques seem sound to me but I may be wrong. I ask because I have been experimenting with his teachings so I am personally invested in knowing all there is to know about him as a teacher. Metta.

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby Brizzy » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:11 pm

I am personally considering doing a retreat in March with Bhante Vimalaramsi, so I to am interested. I don't think Bhante makes any direct criticism of other modern teachers, though he did abandon Mahasi training. Bhante is also very dismissive of a lot of commentarial teaching and the practices founded upon them. Personally I think he teaches very practically and relates the practice he teaches very well to the suttas.

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby 2600htz » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:21 pm

Hello,

I imagine most of the criticism comes because he doesn´t agree with some instructions of the Visuddhimagga and he openly talks about it, so its to be expected that the ones who agree with those instructions will reply his statements, creating a discussion. It would be weird if that didn´t happend.

Personally i think he is a really good teacher, but u might look other topics where the subject is discussed in this forum.

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby befriend » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:16 pm

read my post called breakthrough in the general theravadan section. bhante vimalaramsi teaches from the suttas not from commentary. there is a relax step that is a huge component of the meditation. when you relax the tension in the mind, you are letting go of craving. as is taught by buddha, buddha says "tranquilizing bodily formations" i was doing this TWIM as bhante teaches tranquil wisdom insight meditation doing metta, and had an insight about non self. it is samatha and vipassana yoked together. bhante vimalaramsi does not teach samatha first, and then vipassana. it is a see for yourself meditation. try it before you make an opinion on it.
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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby befriend » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:35 pm

tilt billings are you talking from experience when you critique bhante vimalaramsi have you meditated with his instruction? i have had insights into nonself which made me see that my hunger was not self. this is from doing metta with the relaxation step. it is samatha yoked with vipassana. try it dont try it do whatever you want, but you should know critisizing things you dont know about is ignorant.
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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby Brizzy » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:37 pm

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:37 pm

Tilt,

Thank you for taking the time to reply to my question with great links and by pin-pointing your problem with Bhante V. I, too, find it troubling but do like the technique. You mentioned you were familiar with other teachers who employ a similar "smile and relax" method and, if you happen to remember them and don't mind sharing their names I'd appreciate it.
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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:09 pm

Hi ancientbuddhism,

The main criticisms are I heard were with regard to his approach to other teachers and the commentaries. Nothing to do with his observance of the patimokkha. Mettaya.
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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:44 pm

Hi ancientbuddhism,

Thank you for your post and your opinion. Mettaya!
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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

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Ignorance is an intentional act.

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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:21 pm

Nice. Thanks for that. Merry Christmas!
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