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Greetings everyone,

Happy Uposatha Day for today (or whichever day it falls on your chosen calendar)!

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may be worth looking into having a moon clock, or a calander somewhere for the official DW uposatha days???? that way atleast we all know it is 8-precept time if we want to follow the extra rules? and save some confusion about what are and what arent the days!

just a thought may be better in the suggestions but seams appropriate here also!
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Greetings Manapa,

I like the idea, and thought about it, but it's complicated slightly by the fact different calendars take different full-moon days, thus such a calendar could not be precise for everyone.

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There was another post or thread about this at one time and someone recommended a downloadable button which goes on the bottom right hand corner of your screen, which shows the current moon phase and also how many days until the next full moon. I can't give the link right now, because I am on the laptop right now, but one of us might be able to find it with a search.

I downloaded and like it -- it is just a small button and does not get in the way of anything.
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Hi Retro & Dhamma,
I don't remember the post you (Dhamma) speak of, but is it a propper download or is it a pop up screan showing the moon phase? I do have a moon phase calander on my blog but think that may be too bulky to make seamlessly part of the page in this forum without changing the design!
one solution would be to pick somewhere in the world and use there calander as a hint for everyone as to the aproach of the day? GMT has had the 0 time for the longest so I think briton should be out of the running as a calander candidate, but maybe a poll of which theravadan countrys tradition(s) people prefer and go with that countries one!

I may change my signature to sometimes my ideas are good sometimes not but be sure I will share them regardless!!!!!!
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Here it is:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1915" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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anyone with the Vista sidebar can get a similar gadget to that

http://gallery.live.com/results.aspx?pl=1&bt=1&q=moon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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TheDhamma wrote:Here it is:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1915" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Trick...thank you David...
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Greetings,

Happy Uposatha Day!

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I'm back on the Uposatha bandwagon this full-moon after missing the last couple through some instances of bad timing.

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retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Happy Uposatha Day!

:buddha2:

I'm back on the Uposatha bandwagon this full-moon after missing the last couple through some instances of bad timing.

Metta,
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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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Happy uposatha everyone! I'm not going to be observing today myself (as I'm afraid of putting too much stress on my immune system while my wife and son fight off the flu) but I wish you all success and great merit! :anjali:
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Happy Uposatha Day everyone.

This is actually the first Uposatha day in which I've decided to observe. If I manage it I would like to observe more in future.

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August 2, 2012 - Sometimes called "Dhamma Day," Asalha Puja commemorates the first sermon of the Buddha. This is the Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta, meaning the sermon of the Buddha on setting the Wheel of Dhamma in motion. In this sermon, the Buddha explained his doctrine of the Four Noble Truths.

Vassa, the Rains Retreat, begins the day after Asalha Puja. Rains Retreat is the traditional retreat during the rainy season lasting for three lunar months. It usually begins on the first day of the waning moon of the eighth lunar month (usually in July) and ends on the full moon of the eleventh month (usually October). For this year (2012), the vassa begins on August due to the leap year, where there is extra one lunar month on the calendar.

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Note: In Sri Lanka, they started the Vassa one month earlier this year due to a different calculation of their lunar calendar.
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Greetings,

I'm looking forward to celebrating Asalha Puja at a wat for the first time on Sunday.

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Tomorrow is Pavāranā Day

This day marks the end of the Rains retreat (vassa). In the following month, the kathina ceremony is held, during which the laity gather to make formal offerings of robe cloth and other requisites to the Sangha.

The uposatha observance regularly provides an opportunity for bhikkhus to accuse their fellows of any offenses that the latter may have committed without making amends. However, there are many factors that might dissuade a bhikkhu from taking advantage of these regular meetings to make such an accusation. The recitation of the Pāṭimokkha may be so time-consuming that he is reluctant to prolong the meeting. During the months outside of the Rains the composition of the Community may be so variable from week to week that he is uncertain of their ability or willingness to judge the issue fairly, and they themselves may be in a poor position to judge the reliability of the accused and his accuser. During the months of the Rains-residence, however, when the Community is more stable, his reluctance to break his Rains may prevent him from bringing up the issue if he senses that the person he wants to accuse, or the accused's cohorts, are likely to retaliate. This being the case, he might feel tempted to put his personal convenience and comfort ahead of the Vinaya, and the accusation would never get a hearing.

For this reason, the Buddha allowed that, once a year at the end of the Rains-residence, bhikkhus who have observed the Rains without break may replace one uposatha observance with an Invitation (pavāraṇā), at which each gives the opportunity to his fellows to accuse him of any offense that they may have seen, heard, or suspected him of committing. If the Invitation proceeds without accusation, the bhikkhus are then free to go their separate ways, each with a clean reputation. If there is an accusation, this is the time to settle it once and for all.

The meeting at which this invitation is given is an ideal time to settle such issues. Because the Pāṭimokkha is not being recited — and because there are provisions for shortening the Invitation procedure in the event of a long, drawn-out discussion — there is more time to consider an accusation. Because the participating bhikkhus, for the most part, have lived together for three months, they are in a good position to assess the character both of the accuser and the accused. Because the Rains-residence ends the following morning, the accuser has less reason to fear retaliation from the accused, as he is under no compulsion to remain with the Community.

In addition, the rules surrounding the Invitation encourage an atmosphere in which accusations may be heard. On the one hand, with every participant expected to invite accusations, anyone who refuses to give leave for an accusation looks like he has something to hide. On the other hand, if a bhikkhu suspects one of his fellows of having committed an offense but does not at least bring up the issue in the Invitation meeting, he incurs an offense if he tries to bring it up at a later date. In this way, both sides are given incentives to put the Vinaya ahead of their own immediate convenience and comfort. As the Buddha said when making the original allowance for the Invitation, its purpose is to promote mutual conformity among the bhikkhus, to help them rise out of their offenses, and to foster their esteem for the Vinaya.

The bhikkhus should invite one another, in line with seniority:

"Friends [venerable sirs], I invite you. With regard to what is seen, heard, or suspected, may you speak to me out of sympathy. On seeing (the offense) I will make amends. A second time... A third time, friends [venerable sirs], I invite you... On seeing (the offense) I will make amends."

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Description of Lao-Isan customs:

In the eleventh lunar month, the end of the Buddhist Vassa (ອອກວັດສາ ຫລື ອອກພິນສາ ຫລື ປະວາລະນາ) includes many important ceremonies: the torch lighting (lantern) ceremony; floating of the lit boats; boat racing to celebrate the Naga Kings' well-being; offering wax castles; offering monks' blankets, and beginning the Kathin ceremony.
Maha Sila Viravongs states that this ritual does not concern lay people. Later, Lao people adopted some Brahman rituals and included them into this ritual. In Brahmanism, the people would make floats and lanterns to worship Brahma, Vissanu, and Siva from the full moon night of the twelfth lunar month until the first waxing moon of the first lunar month. After that they would float all the floats and lanterns in the river for cleansing off their sins and misfortunes. Later, Lao people adopted all activities, changing the original purpose of the ritual to the worshipping of the Buddha and to thank the river goddess for providing water for human consumption. In Thailand, people include one more activity in this ritual; Devo Rohana offering food to monks, and listening to the Devo Rohana sermon.10

In the twelfth lunar month, Bun Kathin (ບຸນກະຖຶນ--offering of new monks' robes and other necessities) includes the following activities: offering new monks' robes, making wax castles, offering monks' robes in a symbolic forest; offering winter blankets to monks; and preparing popped new rice for monks. Besides bun kathin, Lao people also hold the worship of the Buddha's relics during this time. It was believed that after the Buddha's nirvana, his disciples took pilgrimage to various places in Asian to distribute the Buddha's relics in various temples. Each temple would build a stupa to contain the relics. In the twelfth Lunar month, people would hold a celebration to pay respects to the Buddha.

In the twelfth lunar month, people in Thailand include one more activity called the float festival or Loy Kathong Festival (ລອຍກະທງ--the floating of banana leaf floats with lit candles inside them in the river) in the twelfth lunar month.

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For the mythological history see:

The Buddha goes to spend the rains retreat in the Tavatimsa heaven in order to teach his mother

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On the Great Invitation (pavarana) day, the Buddha descends from Tavatimsa heaven via stairways of jewels, gold and silver

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The Buddha opens all the worlds, enabling the devas, hell beings and humans to see each other

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