Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

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Re: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:35 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:41 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:21 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

Postby theY » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:12 pm

This topic shown the importance of abhidhammpitaka.

Because people who read only sutta without tipitaka access tradition, learning tradition, will be doubt like this topic's author.

Suttas especially taught for someone, at somewhere, in some state, and more fixed situation.
They taught only a part of phenomena, to made target person be ariya.

Abhidhamma taught for explain suttas, seem to be dictionary, or commentary.
They taught all part of phenomena.

You should read commentary more to understand the situation and environment of each sutta. You shouldn't pack all sutta words in the same meaning, even though they are the same words, because they may be only homophone words.
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Author of Redneck Buddhism: or Will You Reincarnate as Your Own Cousin?

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Re: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

Postby DAWN » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:52 am

Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

Because we suffer.
Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

Postby danieLion » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:02 am

I think this Feb 7, 2012 dhamma talk by Shaila Catherine goes a long way towards explaining why we can't agree on anything.

Wouldn't you agree?

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Re: Why Can't We Agree on ANYTHING?

Postby Spiny Norman » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:53 am

I don't even agree with myself a lot of the time.... :jumping:
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