Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby Ananda26 » Thu May 08, 2014 4:00 pm

SarathW wrote:I posted the same question, in another Buddhist forum about two years ago without knowing that Tiger Woods was a Buddhist and he was meditating as a very young child. If I am not wrong, I think that he played 18 hole golf at par at the age of five.
I think that most of prominent players win in Olympics, tennis (mainly Abrahamic Religions) must have attain some form of Jhana (keeping aside drug abuse). Even cricket players such as Muralitharan (Hindu religion), Shane Warn may come under this category.
Unfortunately most of these people did not support their attainment with following Dharma. In his public apology to his family Tiger Woods stated that fall of his fame is due to failing to follow the Five Precepts.
What are your thoughts?


Buddha said that among male layfollowers Hatthaka of Alavi and Citta are to be emulated.

Here is a link to Citta Samyutta, Connected Discourses of the Buddha Chapter 41.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .html#sn41

Attaining Jhana is supported by study and the practice of meditation. I think a similee could be made about how carefully a skilled golf player hits the ball, and how a practicioner practices mindfulness and clear awareness about his actions.

About the apology here is Buddha's formula on accepting an apology. Since you ackowledge the offence and confess it we shall accept it. For he who ackowleges his offence and makes amends as is right by undertaking restraint for the future will grow in the Noble Dhamma and Discipline.

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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby SarathW » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:59 pm

In this Dhamma talk Ajhan Brahamawamso take the mystery out of Jhana.
According to him we have some form of Jhana even when we watch a god movie.
I am not sure about his story, a man with Jhana taking to the hospital.
Is it a Joke?
Very good Dhamma talk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MezhRc_8XY
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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby SarathW » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:11 am

See last paragraph on page 72 some interesting facts relate to OP:


http://ftp.budaedu.org/ebooks/pdf/EN345.pdf
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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby SarathW » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:50 am

The following Sutta address the question raised in OP.

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Master Gotama was a meditator and cultivated meditation, and he praised every type of meditation?

“The Blessed One, brahmin, did not praise every type of meditation, nor did he condemn every type of meditation. What kind of meditation did the Blessed One not praise? Here, brahmin, someone abides with his mind obsessed by sensual lust, a prey to sensual lust, and he does not understand as it actually is the escape from arisen sensual lust. While he harbours sensual lust within, he meditates, premeditates, out-meditates, and mismeditates. He abides with his mind obsessed by ill will, a prey to ill will…with his mind obsessed by sloth and torpor, a prey to sloth and torpor…with his mind obsessed by restlessness and remorse, a prey to restlessness and remorse…with his mind obsessed by doubt, a prey to doubt, and he does not understand as it actually is the escape from arisen doubt. While he harbours doubt within, he meditates, premeditates, out-meditates, and mismeditates. The Blessed One did not praise that kind of meditation.

“And what kind of meditation did the Blessed One praise? Here, brahmin, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unwholesome states, a bhikkhu enters upon and abides in the first jhāna…With the stilling of applied and sustained thought, he enters upon and abides in the second jhāna…With the fading away as well of rapture…he enters upon and abides in the third jhāna...With the abandoning of pleasure and pain...he enters upon and abides in the fourth jhāna…The Blessed One praised that kind of meditation.”


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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby _anicca_ » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:27 pm

All of this is merely speculation.
I don't envision a single thing that, when developed, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed leads to great benefit.

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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby SarathW » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:49 pm

_anicca_ wrote:All of this is merely speculation.

Can you elaborate it?
Which is speculation?
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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby _anicca_ » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:54 pm

SarathW wrote:
_anicca_ wrote:All of this is merely speculation.

Can you elaborate it?
Which is speculation?


The speculation is surrounding if Tiger Woods has attained jhāna or not.

While it is unlikely that he has, we will never know for sure...
I don't envision a single thing that, when developed, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed leads to great benefit.

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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby Lucas Oliveira » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:57 am

Luang Pó arrived in Thailand in July 1977 but this would not be his last visit to the West. In 1979 he made a second trip to England, this time to visit the newly established monastery of Cittaviveka and his abbot, Ajahn Sumedho. After spending some time in England, he traveled to the United States. During his stay there, he taught in various places and the lay community had many opportunities to interact with him. Here is an example of questions posed by Westerners and the answers given by him:

Question: "I say that even if involved with worldly things, but doing it with determination and total dedication, our mind is able to achieve deep samādhi. For example, a musician, when engrossed in the music he is playing, can achieve jhāna, bliss and happiness, mental unification. The only difference is that his focus was not an object of meditation, that's all. "

Luang Pó laughs and says, "No, no. No one can reach jhāna playing music ... only you gringos(foreigners) should get something like that! What jhāna? You do not know what you're talking about! "

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Re: Has Tiger Woods attain Jhana?

Postby massara » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:16 am

Lucas Oliveira wrote:Luang Pó arrived in Thailand in July 1977 but this would not be his last visit to the West. In 1979 he made a second trip to England, this time to visit the newly established monastery of Cittaviveka and his abbot, Ajahn Sumedho. After spending some time in England, he traveled to the United States. During his stay there, he taught in various places and the lay community had many opportunities to interact with him. Here is an example of questions posed by Westerners and the answers given by him:

Question: "I say that even if involved with worldly things, but doing it with determination and total dedication, our mind is able to achieve deep samādhi. For example, a musician, when engrossed in the music he is playing, can achieve jhāna, bliss and happiness, mental unification. The only difference is that his focus was not an object of meditation, that's all. "

Luang Pó laughs and says, "No, no. No one can reach jhāna playing music ... only you gringos(foreigners) should get something like that! What jhāna? You do not know what you're talking about! "

http://muditobhikkhu.weebly.com/principal/ajahn-chah-responde-as-perguntas-dos-gringos



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