“Let me issue and control a nation‘s money and I care not who writes the laws.”
– Amschel Rothschild
Perhaps the single most important thing to know about power in the world today is that most nations do not have control over their own currencies. Instead privately owned, for-profit central banks – such as the Federal Reserve Bank in the US – create money out of nothing and then loan it at interest to their respective governments. This is an incredibly profitable scam, but that’s not the worst of it.
Not only do the central banks have the power to create money for free, they also have the power to set interest rates, to decide how much credit is issued, and to decide how much money is put into circulation. With this power central banks can – and do – orchestrate boom and bust cycles, enabling the super-wealthy owners of the banks to profit from investments during the booms, and buy up assets at bargain prices during the busts. And that still isn’t the whole story.
The most profitable of all central bank activities has been the financing of major wars, particularly the two World Wars. When nations are engaged in warfare, with their very survival at stake, the governments stretch their resources to the limit in the competition to prevail. The struggle to get more financing becomes as important as the competition on the battlefield. Moneylenders love a desperate borrower, and vast fortunes have been made by extending credit to both sides in conflicts: the longer a war continues, the more profit for the central bankers.
shaunc wrote:In Australia you get a fine if you don't vote. Your pick, vote or pay the fine.
Goofaholix wrote:Of course they should, it's a bit of a silly question.
Mkoll wrote:I don't see why not. Nothing in the suttas advise laypeople not to vote. Somehow I doubt there was much voting in ancient India. Nowadays, it's our civic duty.
Ben wrote:But to the question: should lay Buddhists vote?
Yes, absolutely. Whether one has the threat of a statutory penalty as encouragement or not, one has a civic duty to cast ones vote to assist in the formation of representational government.
boris wrote:To vote and in the same time to believe that it will have some influence on the world affairs is nothing else than involvement in avijja. You may chose this puppet over that puppet, and there seems to be a great difference between them, but this is just an illusion, since the same puppet masters have strings attached to all of puppets. Prime ministers, governments, they have no real power. The real power has someone who controls nations money - but this in our "democratic times" is not the subject you can vote.
Sam Vara wrote:boris wrote:To vote and in the same time to believe that it will have some influence on the world affairs is nothing else than involvement in avijja. You may chose this puppet over that puppet, and there seems to be a great difference between them, but this is just an illusion, since the same puppet masters have strings attached to all of puppets. Prime ministers, governments, they have no real power. The real power has someone who controls nations money - but this in our "democratic times" is not the subject you can vote.
The view that voting is merely an illusory choice between "puppets" who are controlled by those who own the means of production and exchange is a common minority viewpoint throughout the world. It owes a lot to the writings of Marx and his followers. I've no problem with it, but why do you think it escapes the involvement in avijja that characterises the belief in the (albeit restricted) efficacy of voting?
Mkoll wrote: one boris linked and they all spout a similar story of world control. Sometimes the elite are controlled by aliens, lizard people, annunaki, etc. etc. Products of a paranoid mind.
boris wrote:Mkoll wrote: one boris linked and they all spout a similar story of world control. Sometimes the elite are controlled by aliens, lizard people, annunaki, etc. etc. Products of a paranoid mind.
This is an information war. To introduce as much nonsense informations as possible and make primo; information noise secundo: to discredit true and reasonable information. But here you can find no lizard, just pure objective science http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/replies.htm
This is also an interesting book, but I don't know whether it is available in USA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_Wars
Coyote wrote:Is there a passage in the canon or commentary saying we have a civic duty to vote, or participate in politics? Being quite disillusioned with political parties and politics in general I do not agree that voting is a civic duty. Is representative democracy a core Buddhist ideal now?
Mkoll wrote:I'm saying we have a civic duty "nowadays" because we're members of democracies, at least those of us on this forum I hope. And it's more of a right and something expected of you rather than an imperative. Personally, whether someone actually votes or not is none of my business.
It has nothing to do with Buddhism or Buddhist ideals.
Mkoll wrote:Marx would just be another puppet under their control whose ideas they allowed to spread in order to influence people's minds in such a way as to further their ends.
Mkoll wrote:Thanks for reminding me. I forgot to add that the the Jews or some Jewish cabal are also prime suspects of conspiracy theorists regarding who runs the world. Both links you provided opt for that route.
DN31 wrote:"The servants and employees thus ministered to as the Nadir by their master show their compassion to him in five ways:
(i) they rise before him,
(ii) they go to sleep after him,
(iii) they take only what is given,
(iv) they perform their duties well,
(v) they uphold his good name and fame.
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