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http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Punnaji)

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:18 am

Greetings,

I just came across Bhante Dr. M. Punnaji's website...

Proto Buddhism
http://www.protobuddhism.com/

Upon registration you can get access to a series of his e-books and audio recordings.

Firstly... I just wanted to share the link, and secondly see if anyone had any thoughts on Venerable Punnaji's teachings?

Metta,
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Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:29 am

cute site. i'll sign up later, i have 100 pushups to do right now

btw what do you think of it so far?
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:33 am

Greetings JC,

jcsuperstar wrote:btw what do you think of it so far?

Don't know yet... I was typing up my post while I was waiting for the confirmation e-mail.

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If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


Exalted in mind, just open and clearly aware, the recluse trained in the ways of the sages:
One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby BlackBird » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:36 am

Hi Paul

Not really in a position to go through motions to get to the ore of his teachings, could someone please give a summary of his interpretation of Paticcasamupada?

From what I can gather from the website it's another temporal interpretation, moment by moment - Is it akin to Buddhadasa?

metta
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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:40 am

The Original Teachings of the Buddha according to Ven. Pujjani, to state it honestly.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby Wind » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:50 am

Ven. Punnaji is a great teacher. I have been listening to his Dhamma talk in the past week. He sheds new lights into the Dhamma. I find his translations of key terms very insightful. He is not like Buddhadasa. His background is in philosophy, psychology and he was a practicing physician at one point. He loves to use modern studies of psychology and philosophy and relate it to the Dhamma.
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby BlackBird » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:55 am

But what sort of philosophy?
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:59 am

Greetings Jack,

BlackBird wrote:But what sort of philosophy?

Ven Punnaji wrote:"Now this way of thinking is what is today called phenomenology and this is the position that the Buddha also took."

Source: http://www.buddhistelibrary.org/cpg1420 ... =45&pos=28

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One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby Wind » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:07 am

BlackBird wrote:But what sort of philosophy?


He will cite different western philosophers on their perspective on human experience and then explain how it relates to Buddha's perspective. He explains that Buddhism is part philosophy, part psychotherapy, and part religion. He uses his experience in the medical field and his education in psychology to help modern listener to understand the Buddhist concepts.
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:54 pm

Correct spelling: Punnaji

Dhamma Wiki bio:

http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?tit ... la_Punnaji

Best teacher I ever met.

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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby Sobeh » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:28 pm

From the site:

"DISCOVER THE ORIGINAL TEACHINGS OF THE BUDDHA

Win the Highest Point in Human Evolution by Mastering the Authentic Meditation Skills of the Buddha. Gain Perfection in Physical and Mental Health & Happiness. Make a Paradigm Shift from Existence to Experience, which will Awaken you from the Dream of Existence and Set You Free from every SUFFERING including DEATH itself and that means

IMMORTALITY

FOR EVER"

What the hell is this then?
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:45 pm

Sobeh wrote:From the site:
which will Awaken you from the Dream of Existence and Set You Free from every SUFFERING including DEATH itself and that means

IMMORTALITY

FOR EVER"

What the hell is this then?


Notice that it mentions, "the Dream of Existence" so it is not referring to any eternalism, if that is the way it may have appeared.

Also, that site was prepared by the webmaster from Malaysia, not Bhante Punnaji himself. Any errors in language would from the lay followers / webmaster, not Bhante Punnaji.
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby SDC » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:42 pm

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

I just came across Bhante Dr. M. Pujjani's website...

Proto Buddhism
http://www.protobuddhism.com/

Upon registration you can get access to a series of his e-books and audio recordings.

Firstly... I just wanted to share the link, and secondly see if anyone had any thoughts on Venerable Pujjani's teachings?

Metta,
Retro. :)


I registered for that site a few months ago when it launched. The ebooks on the site are extremely difficult to come by otherwise, so it was good they were made available. The audio/video lectures, though there are few, are very good.

I've been listening to him and reading his work for about a year and my practice has shown much improvement. His approach works very well for me. I highly recommend looking into his work further.

BlackBird wrote:Hi Paul

Not really in a position to go through motions to get to the ore of his teachings, could someone please give a summary of his interpretation of Paticcasamupada?

From what I can gather from the website it's another temporal interpretation, moment by moment - Is it akin to Buddhadasa?

metta
Jack


Here is one talk in two parts on the paticca samuppada, Jack. Unfortunately, part of the lecture is cut out, but you'll still get plenty of good info regarding his interpretation.

http://www.buddhistelibrary.org/cpg1420/displayimage.php?album=45&pos=32
http://www.buddhistelibrary.org/cpg1420/displayimage.php?album=45&pos=33

There are plenty of other good talks on the same site (EDIT - his talks start with the jhana talk in the middle of the page and continue to the last page): http://www.buddhistelibrary.org/cpg1420 ... =45&page=3
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby Goedert » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:53 am

This is a bench of good work with out that rigorous mind.

Someone know when his E-Course will be available with CD01-02-03-04?

Kind Regards.
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby Wind » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:59 am

I just realize Retro butchered his name. :lol: I'm sure if Bhante Punnaji was here, he would be interested in reading about Bhante Pujjani's insight. :D
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Punnaji)

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:10 am

Greetings Wind,

I hope he's not too attached to his name. One hopes not. :D

Anyhow, thanks to you and David for the heads-up... I've now correctly rearranged his name.

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Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby BlackBird » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:59 am

SDC wrote:Here is one talk in two parts on the paticca samuppada, Jack. Unfortunately, part of the lecture is cut out, but you'll still get plenty of good info regarding his interpretation.

http://www.buddhistelibrary.org/cpg1420/displayimage.php?album=45&pos=32
http://www.buddhistelibrary.org/cpg1420/displayimage.php?album=45&pos=33

There are plenty of other good talks on the same site (EDIT - his talks start with the jhana talk in the middle of the page and continue to the last page): http://www.buddhistelibrary.org/cpg1420 ... =45&page=3


Thanks for the link(s) SDC, will have a listen when I get home :)

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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby pilgrim » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:40 am

David N. Snyder wrote:Correct spelling: Punnaji

Dhamma Wiki bio:

http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?tit ... la_Punnaji

Best teacher I ever met.


Can someone with a wikipedia account pls correct an inaccuracy in his bio? Presently It currently says "Ven. Punnaji took the place of the famous and late Ven. Dr. K. Sri Dhammananda in Malaysia as spiritual head of the Brickfields Malaysian Buddhist Maha Vihara [1]", which is incorrect. The current head of the Vihara is Ven K Sri Dhammaratana ( see http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?tit ... rickfields).
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:38 pm

pilgrim wrote:Can someone with a wikipedia account pls correct an inaccuracy in his bio? Presently It currently says "Ven. Punnaji took the place of the famous and late Ven. Dr. K. Sri Dhammananda in Malaysia as spiritual head of the Brickfields Malaysian Buddhist Maha Vihara [1]", which is incorrect.


Thanks for the correction / edit suggestion. I made the change already.
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Re: http://www.protobuddhism.com/ (Ven. Pujjani)

Postby SDC » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:49 pm

Goedert wrote:This is a bench of good work with out that rigorous mind.

Someone know when his E-Course will be available with CD01-02-03-04?

Kind Regards.


I sent the webmaster an email about this as I have been wondering myself how the E-course works. I will let you know when he gets back to me.

In the meantime, for anyone interested in a solid overview of his work, check out the link below. This is a series of talks he did in Washington DC, and it is the most complete set of lectures of his that I have come across.

http://www.sobhana.net/audio/english/punnaji/index.htm
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