We don't want to renounce. We want to have fun.

[fragrant herbs]

Maybe it depends on what you constitute as having fun. My teacher loves to garden and to play with a certain type of board game that the monks use. He also takes monks on trips to get them away from the monastery.

[Bevoir]

Thanks for the replies guys. Food for thought...

[Ferox]

my practice and experience has shown me that when you reach certain levels of dissatisfaction and dispassion naturally, "fun" is given up quite voluntarily and with little struggle. forcing someone into something never works out well.

an example I use is that as we get older , most people are not going to bars and drinking and partying anymore, it's not something they decided " ok from here on in i make a vow to never go to the bar and drink vodka anymore", it just naturally happened as the flow of life moved in other directions.

[hermitwin]

If you dont want to renounce, you wont.
Even monks disrobe and get married.
Renouncing is not an event but a process.
Monks who dont disrobe; it must be due to confidence in the dhamma,
teacher or seeing the results of their own practice that they persevere.