Hanzze wrote:Its not wise to argue a laymans life with Bhikkhus rules,
It's true. Thats why i said that a lay man have a responsability of his food and clothes.
it even closes the door to Bhikkhuhood.
It's true. But there is no rule about vegan practice, so until the one is not bhikkhu, he do that he wants. And when the one is bikkhu, he eat what is given.
It is not easy to understand (because one still craves for many) that there is no way to generalize eating while using matters as an object to observe. The path to wholesome actions is not the clincing to ideas but the honest observing of intentions.
It's true. Thats why when the one know how his food is made, he cant say that he dont know it now, he cant still ignorant about this, so the one reject it. The one calm off his craving about meat.
Today there is a great force of "Buddhists the better eater" with ideas of what should be eaten, but if one gets aware how much suffering such generalizations are causing, one would let go of it. Buddha was not anly aware of the bad intention of Devadata but also of the danger that such genralization would close the path and give foolish discrimination its going on.
I'am sorry, i dont understand what is means by "generalization" ? Generalization between what?
I take a note. Thanks you, i will read it.
If there is a layman able to nourish on food that is not causing killing and ! not causing taking, that it can be maked that be is very lucky or better has done much merits in the past but he will be one under million.
If the one dont think that his taste pleasure is more important that a life of an living creature, that feel pain, suffer, dream, feel emotions, enjoiy, so the one can do it wihout any effort.
Doing good and doing wholesome is very differnt and needs time and much appamada
to be understood.
I hope that the one will not create a barrier thinking that is hard, it's in unattainable, not for this life...
So for what life? Future life?
He dont remember his past life, so the one cant be sure that he dont said this justification of his craving in last time, so he must start now, even it's unattainable.
Buddha hood is unattaineble, it's cant be attain, it's only can be not-attain,
We cant come to it, we can only stop in it.