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Speech & feathers

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:23 pm
by Journey
In the movie Doubt, with Meryl Streep, a Chasidic tale was used to tell about the danger of improper speech:
A man went about a community telling tales, the once happy community grew divided. Later when the rabbi found out, the man wanted to make amends. He was told to "Take a feather pillow, cut it open, and scatter the feathers to the winds." The man thought this was a strange request, but he did it gladly. He was then told "Now, go and gather the feathers. Because you can no more make amends for the damage your words have done than you can recollect the feathers."

Is it possible to make amends in accordance with the Dhamma?

Re: Improper Speech

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:55 pm
by Jechbi
Journey wrote:Is it possible to make amends in accordance with the Dhamma?
It's always possible to make more wholesome kamma here and now.

Re: Speech & feathers

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:20 pm
by mikenz66
I've heard similar stories from Buddhist teachers. In the variation I recall the instructions were to pluck a chicken and bring it to the monk...

The moral of the story was the same.

Metta
Mike

Re: Speech & feathers

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:22 pm
by retrofuturist
Greetings Journey,
Journey wrote:Is it possible to make amends in accordance with the Dhamma?
You can't undo the evil of the past, but you can do good now and in the future.

Metta,
Retro. :)

Re: Speech & feathers

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:23 am
by zavk
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Journey,
Journey wrote:Is it possible to make amends in accordance with the Dhamma?
You can't undo the evil of the past, but you can do good now and in the future.

Metta,
Retro. :)
Hi Journey,

This is how I'd interpret it as well.

Unwholesome actions (of speech, body and mind), once enacted, will produce results or consequences that cannot be retracted, just as one cannot re-gather the feathers that have been dispersed by the wind. But the freedom remains for one to stop enacting further unwholesome actions--to stop casting feathers in the wind, as it were.

In fact, Buddhism would encourage one to cast seeds of sweet fruits instead, so that when they are carried by the wind, they might take root in far flung places, and produce fruits for others to enjoy.

Re: Speech & feathers

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:44 am
by Mexicali
The Dhammapada says that when someone commits an unskillful action and then blocks it with a skillful one, it is a beautiful thing. I'll find the verse later if you want.

Re: Speech & feathers

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:44 pm
by Journey
Thank you all very much for your comments. :anjali:

Re: Speech & feathers

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:50 am
by Aloka
It does of course depend on what exactly we classify individually under unwholesome speech though, does it not? If there is corruption, say at a Buddhist centre somewhere, people who try to speak out against that corruption can then be suppressed and made to feel fearful. This suppression takes the form of accusations of 'wrong speech' by people who imagine everything happening at a Buddhist centre must be somehow beyond criticism. Is that not enabling the corruption? Accusations of 'wrong speech' to others can become a weapon in that sense.

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