cherry picking the words of the Buddha

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cherry picking the words of the Buddha

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:44 pm

just stumbled accross this video
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apart from the misinformation it does demonstrate the need to not ignore the wider context passages are in with its cherry picking of information & passages.
I found it quite humorous how he was mispronouncing things with an accent.
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Re: cherry picking the words of the Buddha

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:41 pm

Ken Wheeler, self proclaimed monk, self pro-claimed buddhologist

his website:

http://www.kathodos.com/

It is stuff that can be, and should be, ignored.

And, yes, his pronunciation of Pali/Sanskrit is hilarious.
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Re: cherry picking the words of the Buddha

Postby Nyana » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:42 pm

tiltbillings wrote:It is stuff that can be, and should be, ignored.

Indeed.

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Re: cherry picking the words of the Buddha

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:59 pm

tiltbillings wrote:Ken Wheeler, self proclaimed monk, self pro-claimed buddhologist

his website:

http://www.kathodos.com/

It is stuff that can be, and should be, ignored.

And, yes, his pronunciation of Pali/Sanskrit is hilarious.

cool another one :woohoo:




wait! what? :jawdrop:
ok don't know if that joke worked in text form so...
yes the slight indianesk twang got me, i was actually quite supprised when i heard his actual accent.
my particular favourite was the comment block to the vid "I am right you can not disagree" throwing away evidence before it has been heard, or ignoring evidence which has been :rolleye:
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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Re: cherry picking the words of the Buddha

Postby manas » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:02 pm

Hi Cittasanto, everyone,

YouTube allows this function where you can make a reply to a specific video, where your reply can appear somewhere underneath (or in close proximity to) the original, so that people can easily access it. I say this
because this should be refuted, and there are quite a few knowledgeable folks here who could convincingly
refute it in a short video. Not to convince this misguided person, because I doubt that will happen; but
rather to prevent ordinary persons who have a genuine interest in the Dhamma, from getting seriously misled.
(I just noted that he has disabled any comments for his video... hmm.)

manas. :anjali:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

(SN 22.97)


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