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Hi guys, I am new here and I would like to seek your advice.

Let's say if I am mindfulness and I realised that anger is brewing within me, I repeat anger, anger, anger .. until it goes away.

After it's gone, should I question myself why am I feeling angry, how should I express my unhappiness to the other person?

Should we even ask questions? Or after the emotion is gone, that's it and full stop?

What is your opinion?

I am not sure about that. Should I even ask questions after it's gone?

What do you think would be the effect if you question your self, why this was happening and what do you think would be the effect if you just ignore if it is gone?

What would the questioning cause if it is actually not really gone? What would the questioning cause if it is actually gone? What if you simply observe it further, next time if it happens? Would there be lesser speculation about what is liberating and helpfull as if we raise questions without practical observance?

How did the anger come, how did it appeare and how did it passed away? Just the anger.

Imagine your situation like a situation with other peoples, like an external situation between two other peoples for example, and then analyse that... It will help you do not apropriate the situation, watching in without glasses of subjectivity

You should notice the events that caused the anger to arise, and the events that lead to the anger ceasing. You should notice the constantly changing body sensations and mental activity associated with what you label "anger", you should notice their impermanent, unsatisfactory, and not self nature.

No need to analyse yourself, or get involved in the story (the reason for the anger), or try and work out if it's justified or not, that just helps fuel the anger and keeps it boiling over. If you do the above then gradually you'll automatically be able to let go of the story behind the anger and realise it has no hold over you.

stn0404 wrote:Hi guys, I am new here and I would like to seek your advice.

Let's say if I am mindfulness and I realised that anger is brewing within me, I repeat anger, anger, anger .. until it goes away.

After it's gone, should I question myself why am I feeling angry, how should I express my unhappiness to the other person?

Should we even ask questions? Or after the emotion is gone, that's it and full stop?

Dear stn0404,

I am not an excellent practitioner, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but IMO, you definitely should ask yourself questions. Thinking is one of the most important of human problem solving tools, also the second part of the 8 fold path, right view lead to right thought. If you read the suttas you can see on many occasions the bodhisattva keep asking himself why he can't successfully do this/that, or what will this/that lead to, etc..? And after that he might find the answers change, adapt his practice.. So you should use your thoughts for the right goal, under right view.

To be honest, some of my practicing is solved by thinking, i.e sometimes I couldn't see the reality, but I asking myself, why did that happen, there must be something hidden, and by that I suddenly 'see' the cause. By using thoughts, you can direct your mind to the mindfulness of dhamma

The main problem with novice is that pure thinking can easily lead to illusions, i.e you can think this is because of that, but in reality it is not. You avoid this by apply thoughts based on observing. The better the observer, the better the thinker. And the calmer your mind, the better you will observe.

Regards

Reflextions leading to a peaceful life: Instructions to Rahula at Mango Stone

stn0404 wrote:Hi guys, I am new here and I would like to seek your advice.

Let's say if I am mindfulness and I realised that anger is brewing within me, I repeat anger, anger, anger .. until it goes away.

After it's gone, should I question myself why am I feeling angry, how should I express my unhappiness to the other person?

Should we even ask questions? Or after the emotion is gone, that's it and full stop?

From my experience it is best to not do anything. If anger arises let it be, if anger ceases let it be. If thinking about anger arises let it be, if there is no thinking about anger let it be. Whatever arises or ceases just let it be, do not touch it, do neither accept it nor push it away. Let it be.
But in order to be able to "not touch" upon arising there has to be "space" for anger or thinking or questioning to arise if it arises. This space provides "distance" and is imperturbable but it is there as a natural condition. Just relax and observe.

If "Should I do this or should I do that?" arises just let it be. Do not touch it.

He knows without doubt or hesitation that whatever arises is merely dukkha[8] that what passes away is merely dukkha and such knowledge is his own, not depending on anyone else. This, Kaccaayana, is what constitutes right view.
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And what if greed arises? Maybe the intention to open the refrigorator or to log on the have some talks? Any experience of doing "not do anything" and its effects?

When anger is present, he knows, "There is anger in me," or when anger is not present, he knows, "There is no anger in me." He knows how the arising of the non-arisen anger comes to be; he knows how the abandoning of the arisen anger comes to be; and he knows how the non-arising in the future of the abandoned anger comes to be.

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Hanzze wrote:And what if greed arises? Maybe the intention to open the refrigorator or to log on the have some talks? Any experience of doing "not do anything" and its effects?

Whatever arises, no difference ... whatever ceases, no difference ...

Friend, I am only referring to experience. Just ignore or believe or doubt ... it is totally up to you.

"not do anything" is to be understood as not do anything against nor do anything to support, just let it be, do not touch.

"I am only referring to experience." That's what I have asked for. How comes that one opens the refrigorator, or logs on if he is that blessed of being not touched? Had skillfull actions leaded to such a state or just doing nothing (what ever that might be)?

Maybe it is more various. There are fermentations to be abandoned by seeing, those to be abandoned by restraining, those to be abandoned by using, those to be abandoned by tolerating, those to be abandoned by avoiding, those to be abandoned by destroying, and those to be abandoned by developing. MN2 and maybe there are times an situations where one needs to get known of what are fermentations, their causes and effectes fist.

Hanzze wrote:"I am only referring to experience." That's what I have asked for. How comes that one opens the refrigorator, of log on if he is that blessed of being not touched? Had skillfull actions leaded to such a state or just doing nothing (what ever that might be)?

If questions arise, just let them be. Do not touch. One question affirmed as being relevant (through being "touched") then thousands of further questions to follow.

Some compossings of aggregates seems to be real unchangeing... of those even the Buddha was a kind of worried.