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Mindfulness and self questioning

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Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby stn0404 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:26 pm

Hi guys, I am new here and I would like to seek your advice.

Let's say if I am mindfulness and I realised that anger is brewing within me, I repeat anger, anger, anger .. until it goes away.

After it's gone, should I question myself why am I feeling angry, how should I express my unhappiness to the other person?

Should we even ask questions? Or after the emotion is gone, that's it and full stop?

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby Hanzze » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:40 pm

What is your opinion?
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby stn0404 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:50 pm

I am not sure about that. Should I even ask questions after it's gone? :thinking:

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby Hanzze » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:03 pm

What do you think would be the effect if you question your self, why this was happening and what do you think would be the effect if you just ignore if it is gone?

What would the questioning cause if it is actually not really gone? What would the questioning cause if it is actually gone? What if you simply observe it further, next time if it happens? Would there be lesser speculation about what is liberating and helpfull as if we raise questions without practical observance?

How did the anger come, how did it appeare and how did it passed away? Just the anger.
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby DAWN » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:12 pm

Imagine your situation like a situation with other peoples, like an external situation between two other peoples for example, and then analyse that... It will help you do not apropriate the situation, watching in without glasses of subjectivity
Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby Goofaholix » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:37 pm

You should notice the events that caused the anger to arise, and the events that lead to the anger ceasing. You should notice the constantly changing body sensations and mental activity associated with what you label "anger", you should notice their impermanent, unsatisfactory, and not self nature.

No need to analyse yourself, or get involved in the story (the reason for the anger), or try and work out if it's justified or not, that just helps fuel the anger and keeps it boiling over. If you do the above then gradually you'll automatically be able to let go of the story behind the anger and realise it has no hold over you.

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby Hanzze » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:11 am

Reflextions leading to a peaceful life:
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby Hanzze » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:38 am

And what if greed arises? Maybe the intention to open the refrigorator or to log on the have some talks? Any experience of doing "not do anything" and its effects?
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BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby bodom » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:39 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby Hanzze » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:51 am

"I am only referring to experience." That's what I have asked for. How comes that one opens the refrigorator, or logs on if he is that blessed of being not touched? Had skillfull actions leaded to such a state or just doing nothing (what ever that might be)?

Maybe it is more various. There are fermentations to be abandoned by seeing, those to be abandoned by restraining, those to be abandoned by using, those to be abandoned by tolerating, those to be abandoned by avoiding, those to be abandoned by destroying, and those to be abandoned by developing. and maybe there are times an situations where one needs to get known of what are fermentations, their causes and effectes fist.
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BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby Hanzze » Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:30 am

Some compossings of aggregates seems to be real unchangeing... of those even the Buddha was a kind of worried.
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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby Hanzze » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:13 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Mindfulness and self questioning

Postby reflection » Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:52 pm

You shouldn't question yourself, you shouldn't question why you feel angry, but it is very useful to question why there is anger in the first place. If you do this you'll see it's always coming from a sense of self, you either want to prevent something, change something, correct something for you think you will be better off. So don't look at the shallow end like "he said this but it was like that and therefore I have all reasons to be angry" or whatever, no not like that. Instead, look deeply, why does anger arise in the first place? What do you want to get get out of it? If you look deeply you'll see you also get angry because you like being angry.. Anger is also an attachment sometimes.

So I'd not say it is that much about watching anger rise and fall and how it feels, but really get to why anger arises, and how can you overcome it skilfully, and how to prevent it arising again in the future.

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