Is there something I can do?

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Scott1989
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Is there something I can do?

Postby Scott1989 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:16 pm

Some say it is helpful to drop the involvement in the story in the head. They say that whenever something seems to be the point of what we are doing, that needs to be dropped as it is a form of craving. When something seems to be the point of what we are doing, then the present moment has become an obstacle to reaching something in the future.

Others say it is helpful to embrace the now and be aware of what is happening now without focussing attention, without letting consciousness stick to any particular thing.

I believe these things are helpful and true but can cause much confusion.

Why?
Who is supposed to shut up? Who is supposed to drop the point? Wouldn't dropping the point be the new point?
Who is supposed to embrace the now? Is there an I in the now? Isn't it always in the now then? Who can focus attention?

What is it we can actually do then? Isn't all doing an obstacle? Do we need realization before we can practice? But if the realization is already there, what are we practicing for?

There is nothing you can do, since there is no you. There are just the forms, feelings, perceptions, mental objects and consciousness.

Then maybe we need to practice giving up completely. What is there to do if there is no I who can do it? What is there to achieve if there is no I to achieve it? What is there to keep if everything is impermanent? What is there to gain if there are no boundaries between things?

What should we give up then? If you ask me, we should practice giving up the following things at all times:
wanting
doing
thinking
watching/looking/listening/perceiving

But we should not forget to give up the following things as well:
non-wanting
non-doing
non-thinking
non-watching

And above all, we should not forget to give up practicing giving up.

Now, what remains is watching without having a goal. What remains is being aware of the now. Watching and being aware of the now can never be manipulated since all forms of 'trying to make it happen' would be obstacles to actually making it happen.

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Hanzze
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Re: Is there something I can do?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:29 pm

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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