Follow intuition or teachers – when you disagree with wiser

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Follow intuition or teachers – when you disagree with wiser

Postby Jaidyn » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:01 am

Teachers are formally wiser then us. They use their wisdom to guide us.

Have you have started to disagree with them (silently or not), and your intuition tells you that they lack the wisdom you once believed they had, and even worse: you get the sensation that you yourself have a better grasping of the fundamentals? For example they have a seemingly correct, but yet shallow way of applying or communicating the teaching.

Some things are obvious signs of lack of wisdom such as breaking the percepts or similar things, but I think more of the overall feeling you get about the persons understanding, and the sensation of the persons grasp of the more subtle details.

You might leave the teacher because of your intuition, but wouldn't it signify a lack of respect to follow your own intuition, instead of trusting the person said to be wiser then you? No matter how strong your intuition is, you may still be affected by delusion while the teacher is not. How can you ever know?
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Re: Follow intuition or teachers – when you disagree with wiser

Postby nibbuti » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:28 am

Jaidyn wrote:How can you ever know?

By comparing the known and the heard to what is in the suttas.

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Re: Follow intuition or teachers – when you disagree with wiser

Postby Aloka » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:50 am

Jaidyn wrote:You might leave the teacher because of your intuition, but wouldn't it signify a lack of respect to follow your own intuition, instead of trusting the person said to be wiser then you? No matter how strong your intuition is, you may still be affected by delusion while the teacher is not. How can you ever know?


If you have doubts and can't successfully communicate with a teacher, then its not a good basis for a student/teacher relationship. I don't think that signifies disrespect . It would be better to just acknowledge that teachers have different methods of teaching their students and then find someone else that you do have some confidence about.
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Re: Follow intuition or teachers – when you disagree with wiser

Postby DAWN » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:25 am

Jaidyn wrote:Teachers are formally wiser then us. They use their wisdom to guide us.

Have you have started to disagree with them (silently or not), and your intuition tells you that they lack the wisdom you once believed they had, and even worse: you get the sensation that you yourself have a better grasping of the fundamentals? For example they have a seemingly correct, but yet shallow way of applying or communicating the teaching.

Some things are obvious signs of lack of wisdom such as breaking the percepts or similar things, but I think more of the overall feeling you get about the persons understanding, and the sensation of the persons grasp of the more subtle details.

You might leave the teacher because of your intuition, but wouldn't it signify a lack of respect to follow your own intuition, instead of trusting the person said to be wiser then you? No matter how strong your intuition is, you may still be affected by delusion while the teacher is not. How can you ever know?


Your teacher is your friend, he is not Buddha, so he lern with you, and the best way to lern something is to teach it.

So the better way that you kan do in this situation, is to get some discussion with him, tel him that you see that dhammas are different that the way he talking about, explain why, and ask him what he thinking about it.

If you are reason in your vision of dhammas, and if you have a good teacher, a real techaer, he will accept the real statement of dhammas, he will work with him self, and will be happy that you see clearer than he. If he is an agoistic teacher, and dont accept - leave him.

You have absolutely to ask him what do he think about your point of wiev, is your techer, he have to teach you, so have some discussion with him.
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Re: Follow intuition or teachers – when you disagree with wiser

Postby Jaidyn » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:11 pm

Sound answers, thank you!
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