How does bullying manifest within the sangha?

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How does bullying manifest within the sangha?

Postby Jaidyn » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:48 pm

How does bullying manifest within the sangha? Any type of sangha. Any reflections?

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Re: How does bullying manifest within the sangha?

Postby cooran » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:00 pm

Hello Jaidyn,

Have you personally seen any bullying of ordained Sangha members or of lay sangha members? If so, what do you class as bullying and why?

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Re: How does bullying manifest within the sangha?

Postby James the Giant » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:09 am

Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: How does bullying manifest within the sangha?

Postby cooran » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:33 am

No, Jaidyn, I haven't seen any bullying in lay or monastic sangha. I have been involved in lay sangha groups for nearly 15 years. I have been involved on committees, been secretary of the committee for a Forest Monastery, and have had five years worth contact with the local monastic Sangha. I have never seen bullying.

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Re: How does bullying manifest within the sangha?

Postby James the Giant » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:52 am

I've seen bullying by laypeople, against other laypeople, who were on the trust board of a monastery. Psychological manipulation kind of bullying. It was dirty dirty politics.
But the monastic sangha stayed well clear, and in the end voted to change the trust board to one that was more committed to honesty, transparency, and good will, because they saw what was going on.
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you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Postby Jaidyn » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:17 am

James the Giant: on a second reflection:

The Monastic Sangha could be seen, in this case, to have had some kind of right grasp as they detected the misbehavior and they also knew how to resolve it. As an organization they had the ability to detect it and the flexibility and the competence to respond to it. I say these steps are not self-evident. I wonder if the success of the Monastic Sangha in dealing wit the case was due to general organizational wisdom (they did what any corporation or sports-club would have done), or if the wisdom gained from their Buddhist practice was influential in the process. ... and how and to what degree was it influential, and was it critical, I may ask myself.


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