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Postby purple planet » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:56 pm

Unorthodox training ideas to get rid of defilements

sutff like walking with weird clothes in the streets to overcome shyness and going on amusment park to overcome fear ect ect ...

inspired by what i read ajhan chan practice - just i dont want to go to dangerous places so im trying to find good ideas like this

think this are good ideas ? have other ones ?
Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance
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Re: Unorthodox training

Postby Chi » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:09 pm

Give things away like your life depends on it. Practice being mindful of the happiness before giving, the happiness while giving, and the happiness after giving. For me, giving away my possessions and simplifying my life has created so much indescribable happiness and contentment and confidence.

Sometimes, getting out of the house for any reason is a wonderful way to reduce laziness/inertia.

How about finding a way to stand while on the computer rather than sit? I've seen a few people do this and they seem quite energetic.

Laugh a lot. I just attended a laughter yoga session a couple of days ago and it totally takes a person out of the stories for a while. In the car, just start pointing at yourself and laughing. Whenever you find yourself making elaborate plans or fantasizing about something, point at yourself and laugh. Pretend you are on the phone and somebody is telling you the funniest thing ever and start laughing. Pretend like you are riding a motorcycle around and start laughing. Laughter and smiling is such good medicine for the disease of seriousness.

Do some yoga. Relax, stretch.

Eat healthy, slowly, mindfully. Realize that you and the food are already one thing. That there is nobody inside consuming something on the outside. Easier said than done, but practicing this way is a wonderful way to realize that everything is just energy. Food has energy. Do you want a certain energy to become your energy? Which energies feel healthiest? Which energies do you crave but know are unhealthy for you?

Be Happy! :namaste:
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Re: Unorthodox training

Postby David2 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:35 pm

Some approaches:
-do something "extreme", i.e. something that leads you to the borders of your comfort zone
-do something which the wise would not disapprove
-do something after which you can think "what had to be done has been done" - contentment is always good.
-do something which helps other people
-do something which is good for your bodily health
-do something which prevents you from doing unskillful things
-do something and ask yourself "who is doing this?"
-do something monotonous and learn to enjoy it/ be mindful while doing it
-do nothing and just watch (the orthodox way? :spy:)
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Re: Unorthodox training

Postby Ben » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:12 pm

If you practice, sila, samadhi and panna then you are going against the orthodoxy of the habituated response of craving and aversion to sensory data. It is the ekayano maggo: direct path.
My concern with what you are contemplating is that it could be an exercise in indulging in delusion in the same way as the dog-ascetic and the ox-ascetic.
wishing you all the best,

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Re: Unorthodox training

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:45 pm

purple planet wrote:Unorthodox training ideas to get rid of defilements

sutff like walking with weird clothes in the streets to overcome shyness and going on amusment park to overcome fear ect ect ...

inspired by what i read ajhan chan practice - just i dont want to go to dangerous places so im trying to find good ideas like this

think this are good ideas ? have other ones ?

Take a banana for a walk, and try to play fetch with it like it was a dog, while wearing a BDSM clown outfit.
not that it would do much, unless you face your hindrences as you are, not as another mask worn.
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