dhamma follower wrote:why there need to be the insistence on "one has to practice the Eight fold Path" vs a presentation of causality ?
Possibly because that's what the Buddha actually taught?
SN 56.11: Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta wrote:"And what is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding? Precisely this Noble Eightfold Path: right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. This is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding."
The Buddha is cool.
Following the Noble Eightfold path produces knowledge (i.e. wisdom).
dhamma follower wrote:Is the Eight fold path apart from the person who practices it? Who is that person that practices?
dhamma follower wrote:What do you mean by "deliberate act?" Do you mean it is a self who does that? Don't you think cetana is also conditioned, as is consideration?
dhamma follower wrote:etc. etc.
As Dhamma Follower attends inappropriately in this way, one of six kinds of view arises in her. The view I have no self arises in her as true & established. This is called a thicket of views, a wilderness of views, a contortion of views, a writhing of views, a fetter of views. Bound by a fetter of views, the uninstructed run-of-the-mill person is not freed from birth, aging, & death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. She is not freed, I tell you, from suffering & stress.