Mr.SeanStewart wrote:Hey Dhama family, I am very urgently and desperately seeking a school that focuses on
developing jhanas before doing mindfulness practice.
- Also looking at a retreat that focuses on doing intense retreats idealy long term in a quiet center.
can you please tell me the names of the schools who do this, also where abouts they are located?
IM currently traveling in East asia so any where in asia would be perfect
Thank you kindly in advance
From my understanding so far Goenka's teaching does Samadi for 3.3 days on a 10 day course
Mahasi's organization focuses on rising and falling of stomach.
i know there are schools that develop jahna before doing mindfullness, which is what im seeking
I support you in your quest, although I don't have any knowledge of meditation centres in Asia, sorry. (I've not as yet even been
to Asia.) I just wanted to mention that, there is this notion in much of the Buddhist world that jhana and vipassana (is that what you were referring to when you mentioned 'mindfulness'?) are two different things, when actually they are more like two sides of a single coin, and are quite interconnected: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... etool.html
Lastly, I might gently remind you that there's no jhana without mindfulness, I mean, jhana is a state in which there is greatly enhanced and strengthened mindfulness as I understand it, so maybe that is why some could misunderstand your original question.
I wish you well in your quest!
Thanks alot for your help and the link,
from my very limited experience (goenka vipassina 3 yrs, 5 retreats) i have learned that
the more concentrated my mind becomes through ananpana the better my practice gets
and with the 10 courese, right when i feel im reaching a new level of concentration
they start vipassina, and i never had a chance to seee where anapana alone will lead to
after 20-30-40 days.
So its part curiosity of what can happen, and part my own inner
feeling that this is a more skill ful path to me and my logic, that as a building needs to have a
solid foundation, so do i need a solid foundation of concentration which a) gives me motivation
to find peace/joy free from form (5 sesnes) and b) use this tool like a Microscope to practice
from my research i see mixed reviews on this and every one seem to have their own valid reasons
and hoenstly i dont have the ability to read all the sutras to come up with my own conclusions
so the best i can do is to do what seems logical to me and follow the path of buddha.
he reached his jhana before discovering vipassina and reached the final goal, so me too would rather
reach jhana and then work towards vipassina and purfiy my mind, wost case senario i have increased
my concnetration which then improves all other areas of my life, and then i can move on to other practices
some may say this can develop attachment to Jhana state and become addicted, but i think just like all my other
addictions (drugs, sex, ect ect) this too should be seen through and transcended through personal experience.
Thanks again for listing, still love to hear others feed back on this. Cheers