Just a moderator note: rather than getting multiple threads going on about how the Buddha did not teach rebirth or some variation of the the "If the Buddha said ..." has been merged with the "great rebirth debate."
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
-- Proverbs 26:12
-- SN I, 38.“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”