Is Ajahn Brahm...

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Is Ajahn Brahm...

Postby greggorious » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:54 pm

...turning his back on the more aesthetic elements of the Thai forest tradition? Although he seems fond of Ajahn Chah and his time in Thailand, he seems to diss it quite a bit too. He seems to make it all a lot more accessible for his lay community and to his Monks. I even heard him do a talk on his love for Buddha nature, which isn't a Theravada concept. He also seems to hold Bhikkuni's in a much higher esteem than a lot of Theravadin's do.
I just want to know what the deal is with him? I heard a rumor that he was expelled from the Thai monastic community, is this true?
"The original heart/mind shines like pure, clear water with the sweetest taste. But if the heart is pure, is our practice over? No, we must not cling even to this purity. We must go beyond all duality, all concepts, all bad, all good, all pure, all impure. We must go beyond self and nonself, beyond birth and death. When we see with the eye of wisdom, we know that the true Buddha is timeless, unborn, unrelated to any body, any history, any image. Buddha is the ground of all being, the realization of the truth of the unmoving mind.” Ajahn Chah

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Re: Is Ajahn Brahm...

Postby BlackBird » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:27 pm

If there's one thing I've learned recently, try and stay out of the politics - It usually only results in more greed hatred and delusion, not just in oneself but in others also.

Really what's important is this: When you listen to Ajahn Brahm's talks, do you find there is a lessening of the three roots in you, or do they become stronger? That is how you can know whether something is worth pursuing.

Personally Ajahn Brahm's teachings don't work for me. As a monk and community leader I think he does a stellar job though. But to each his own, just find what works for you don't focus on who may or may not have been expelled from this or that and who's got animosity here or there - That's low talk and the Buddha would not speak in praise of it.

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta

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Re: Is Ajahn Brahm...

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:34 pm

The ordinations Ajahn Brahm did have been discussed here:

Any other discussion might lead to gossip, so this is locked.

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Re: Is Ajahn Brahm...

Postby Paul Davy » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:38 pm

Greetings Greg,

I don't think that a topic setting up to answer the question "I just want to know what the deal is with him?" is going to be particularly productive.

A couple of the questions you ask are (in and of themselves) reasonable questions to ask, and you're welcome to pursue them individually in new and existing topics... but as it stands, a "what's his deal?" style topic really isn't appropriate at Dhamma Wheel, especially when it's being asked with regards to an ordained member of the Theravada Sangha who is held in high regard in many quarters.

If you're unclear of what is being asked here, feel free to PM me, David or another moderator.

Retro. :)
What is the final conviction that comes when radical attention is razor-edge sharp? That the object of the mind is mind-made (manomaya). (Ven. Ñāṇananda)

Having understood name-and-form, which is a product of prolificity,
And which is the root of all malady within and without,
He is released from bondage to the root of all maladies,
That Such-like-one is truly known as 'the one who has understood'.
(Snp 3.6)

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