Tilakkhana, Nibbana and anatta

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Tilakkhana, Nibbana and anatta

Postby greenjuice » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:45 pm

It is said that "the All", consisting of five aggregates/ six sense spheres, has three important characteristics: it is impermanent (anicca), suffering (dukha) and not-self (anatta). Nirvana, which is a state of escape from the All, is given the opposite of the two characteristics, it is said to be permanent (nicca) and supreme happiness (param sukham), but not that it is self (atta), or supreme self (param attam). It is a little, well, asymmetrical. Does anyone have any opinion about this? Could the buddhist opinions about the true atta spring from this asymmetry?
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Re: Tilakkhana, Nibbana and anatta

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:03 pm

greenjuice wrote:It is said that "the All", consisting of five aggregates/ six sense spheres, has three important characteristics: it is impermanent (anicca), suffering (dukha) and not-self (anatta). Nirvana, which is a state of escape from the All, is given the opposite of the two characteristics, it is said to be permanent (nicca) and supreme happiness (param sukham), but not that it is self (atta), or supreme self (param attam). It is a little, well, asymmetrical. Does anyone have any opinion about this? Could the buddhist opinions about the true atta spring from this asymmetry?
The idea of some sort of atta would spring the assumption that nibbana is some how or other a thing. Don't forget that:
    Monks, whatever contemplatives or priests who assume in various ways when assuming a self, all assume the five clinging-aggregates, or a certain one of them. SN III 46
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Tilakkhana, Nibbana and anatta

Postby chownah » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:42 pm

No reason to think that some sort of symmetry should be found here. Two out of three ain't bad!
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