If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
Dear curiosity,
I don't recall the Buddha ever saying that nature/reality/time is considered "cyclical".
How do you define "cyclical"?
I don't recall the Buddha ever saying that nature/reality/time is considered "cyclical".
How do you define "cyclical"?
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
Hi curiousity,curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?
Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?
One who has attained to the ending of craving is 'untraceable even in the here-and-now', so we certainly cannot define them after they have passed away. We are getting past what words can adequately describe here.
kind regards,
manas
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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?
Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?
Pronouns (no self / not self)
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
There is cycles, but its not mean that all will repaet in exactly the same way.curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?
Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?
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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
Yes, that's how I understand it.Goofaholix wrote: Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.
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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
Goofaholix wrote:
Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.
Aflame with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion.
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......
Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......
Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28
Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..
Only if you make the error of making nibbana into some kind of metaphysical crystal palace thats out there and that its a destination that we reachcuriosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?
Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?
How do you understand Nibbana?
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”