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Re: Evidence for rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:22 pm

In response to the request on the other thread, I will briefly summarize evidence for rebirth/reincarnation, though scientists don't seem to like it because they are afraid that it would strengthen religion.



I get suspicious of this kind of reasoning, that scientists deny supernatural claims because of ideology. If it can be proven via the scientific method, beyond all reasonable doubt, then science accepts it. What you suggest just sounds like a conspiracy theory, which is usually a non-theory.


The Big Bang theory was seen to support the abrahamic religions (I think the pope at the time thought about making it a church dogma) yet it was accepted within science, over the steady state theory (which was a model that leant less support to certain religions).
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Re: Evidence for rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:27 pm

. In that way, ancient Buddhists were much closer to modern thought than ancient Greeks and Romans. So that means that many of the past lives the Buddha remembered were on other planets.



The Ancient Greek materialist philosopher Democritus proposed that there were other planets, and that some of them had life. He also put forward the atomic theory.
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Re: Evidence for rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:32 pm

The key point is the tremendous skill of consciousness in doing this. A landscape might be encoded in the relative positions of hundreds of thousands of nerve impulses, and in less than a second, consciousness decodes all that and creates a subjective image of the landscape. That means that the unconscious mind part of consciousness has skills equal to or better than our most powerful supercomputers.

That extremely high level of skill couldn't have been learned by a baby during a couple of months in the womb. So where did the skill come from?


Why?
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Re: Evidence for rebirth

Postby clw_uk » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:38 pm

The above isn't enough for a formal proof, but it is suggestive. There is also a small amount of evidence for interplanetary rebirth/reincarnation. There have been times when a researcher has come up with a theory that turned out to be true, which was a quite large leap ahead of past knowledge, and which wasn't arrived at in a step by step way.


Do you have an example?


That implies that the scientific discovery may have been knowledge the scientist remembered from past lifetimes on another planet.


No it doesn't, that's just a huge leap in logic.

Again, all that isn't enough for a formal proof that there is interplanetary reincarnation, but it is enough to hold the existence of interplanetary rebirth as a hypothesis with some support for it.


It's weak and flimsy at best
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