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How much courageous effort ? - Dhamma Wheel

How much courageous effort ?

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How much courageous effort ?

Postby purple planet » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:50 pm

Lots of times i read about how we should have courageous effort and practice as much as we can - and lots of other times i read that we shouldnt make the "string" to tight - that we should not over work ourselves

how do we know where is the line - on how much effort to put forth ?

for example sleeping how much sleep is actually needed ? how can i really know how much sleep is to much or to little and be sure he got it right

or sometimes i hear that if someone might try to meditate a lot for instance 6 hours in a day he might get frustrated and stop meditating after a few days like that - instead of continuing for a long time - so its better for him to meditate 1 hour each day for a long time than meditate 6 hours a day for a few days - how is he suppose to know when he is over-meditating and is polling the string to "tight" and when he is to relaxed and should put courageous effort ?
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Re: How much courageous effort ?

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Re: How much courageous effort ?

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Re: How much courageous effort ?

Postby Goofaholix » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:47 pm

It's persistance and perseverence that is requiredm, not force of willpower.

Every waking moment is an opportunity to practise, so it makes no sense to talk about how many hours or how many days is enough.

It's not about how many hours you spend on the cushion and how hard you push yourself, it's about maintaining awareness as much as possible after you get up off the cushion and carry on with your daily activities. It's about beginning again over and over each time you notice attention has lapsed.

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Re: How much courageous effort ?

Postby purple planet » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:54 pm

but to be aware shouldn't i put effort in ?
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Re: How much courageous effort ?

Postby Goofaholix » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:00 am

Yes, but the effort is to make it as continuous as possible, the effort is not to force it.

It's a marathon, not a sprint.


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