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Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby purple planet » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:22 am

What is the best meditation technique to fall asleep fast ?
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby appicchato » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:47 am

A very misdirected line of thought here...it's not what meditation is even remotely about...
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby purple planet » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:55 am

I know - i just need to fall asleep faster

I was told that if you do vipasana you would fall asleep as much as needed - but sometimes i need to sleep good now for a later no-sleep period - all for worldly purposes

for instance i was told that if i notice the rising and falling i would fall much faster than if i do a "body scan"

and for instance sometimes it seems i fall asleep much faster just lying down moving and thinking - in comparison to lying down and being mindful of stuff because that way i can stay awake much longer


so instead of just lying there would be nice to do some meditation - the one which will help me fall asleep the fastest - maybe samtha ? metta (but i think metta helps sleep faster in general not specifly faster if done before sleep?) ? counting breaths ? ect
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:57 am

There's nothing wrong with this train of thought: even meditators need to get some sleep so that they can wake up refreshed and ready for the next day's work.

If you're suffering from insomnia due to thinking too much, focus awareness on the body. Sweep the entire body from head to foot, noting all of the sensations of touching, and contemplating the abdominal movements of rising and falling, or the touch of the breath at the nostrils if mindfulness of respiration is your usual practice.

Don't keep changing your body posture, and don't worry too much about not sleeping. If you rest the body and mind thoroughly with Satipaṭṭhāna meditation, that is all the rest it needs.
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby purple planet » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:06 pm

bhante i was told that if i add touching points to the "rising" and "falling" it will keep me awake - you dont think its true ?
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Zom » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:18 pm

That's easy. Just forget everything and sleep as much as you want 8-) :D
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Anagarika » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:55 pm

When I have difficulty falling asleep, such as when a busy day keeps my mind swimming at night, I have literally parked my laptop next to my sleeping pad, and put on a youtube dhamma talk. Tis seems to place my mind in a place, where, after enjoying the first minutes of a dhamma talk, my next memory is of waking up. Kind of like reading a good book at night, but reading at night just never did it for me. The mindful audio did. Give it a try, and see if it works for you if you're not getting enough sleep or have insomnia.
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Jetavan » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:30 pm

Just read the latest issue of the Journal of Transport Economics and Policy. You'll be asleep in seconds.
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby appicchato » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:47 pm

Zom wrote:That's easy. Just forget everything...


Too right...
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby waterchan » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:57 pm

purple planet wrote:What is the best meditation technique to fall asleep fast ?


Reading the Digha Nikaya.
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:45 pm

purple planet wrote:bhante i was told that if i add touching points to the "rising" and "falling" it will keep me awake - you dont think its true ?

Never mind what others tell you. Everyone is different. Try different techniques yourself and see what works for you. Metta works for some.

Sweeping slowly, noting a few points, or many, or focussing more on abdominal movements. Whatever works is fine. Excess of energy leads to restlessness, excess of concentration leads to sloth. It's all about getting the energies back into balanced by applying mindfulness. If you spend the entire night noting mindfully without a break, as long as the restless thoughts cease and you're not just tossing and turning all night, you will be rested in the morning.

After noting for a long while, if the pain of staying in one posture becomes unbearable, then mindfully turn over to the other side. Do it slowly, so that you don't lose mindfulness, then resume sweeping as before.
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby m0rl0ck » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:32 pm

I have had some luck with the method of counting ones exhales starting from 99 and going backward.

OTOH there is always the "running around the block a few times" meditation. Best done about 2 hours before your target bedtime :)
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Ben » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:37 pm

It's important to not forget lifestyle factors which impacts on the quality of sleep.
A few minor changes to one's habits can have a profound impact.
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby pilgrim » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:43 am

As bhante said, everyone is different. But what works for me very well is to focus very gently on the sensation of the body against the bed. Sends me off in less than a minute.
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Spiny Norman » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:33 am

waterchan wrote:
purple planet wrote:What is the best meditation technique to fall asleep fast ?


Reading the Digha Nikaya.


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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Anagarika » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:10 pm

One possible solution: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=20267 :D
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Viscid » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:35 pm

I can't believe no one recommended the the jumping sheep kasina meditation yet..

It's somewhere in the Abhidhamma, I'm pretty sure.

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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby waterchan » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:08 am

Spiny Norman wrote:
waterchan wrote:
purple planet wrote:What is the best meditation technique to fall asleep fast ?


Reading the Digha Nikaya.


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Are you questioning the efficacy of the anadighanikayavibhangasati meditation method?

I was actually half-serious. Reading some Buddhist texts in bed relaxes my mind and prepares it for sleep. And it's more conducive to sleep than more stimulating material like novels and news. Surely there are worse things to do before bed?

Also, you should first consider physical factors. Maybe you aren't tired enough during the day? A good gym workout can do wonders for your sleep.
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby Annatar » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:51 pm

Metta bhavana is said to help one to "sleep in comfort".

With metta,
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Re: Best meditation technique to fall asleep fast?

Postby SarathW » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:31 pm

I see the bright side of insomnia.
It gives me more time for my meditation.
I think, four hours sleep is enough for an adult.
If body does not want to sleep let it be awake.
Keep body still and eventually it will sleep.
Who said that we have to sleep?
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