Brahma vamso wrote:In particular you will see that Jati can only mean birth, the sort of birth which for a human occurs in a mother’s womb:
"Bhikkhus, from what do these four supports originate, rise, take birth and develop?
"These four supports originate, rise, take birth and develop from craving.
"Bhikkhus, from what does craving originate, rise, take birth and develop?
"Craving originates, rises, takes birth and develops from feelings.
"Bhikkhus, from what do feelings originate, rise, take birth and develop?
"Feelings originate, rise, take birth and develop from contact.
"Bhikkhus, from what does contact originate, rise, take birth and develop?
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"Contact originates, rises, takes birth and develops from the sixfold sense base.
"Bhikkhus, from what does the sixfold sense base originate, rise, take birth and develop?
"The sixfold sense base originates, rises, takes birth and develops from name and form.
"Bhikkhus, from what do name and form originate, rise, take birth and develop?
"Name and form originate, rise, take birth and develop from consciousness.
"Bhikkhus, from what does consciousness originate, rise, take birth and develop?.
"Consciousness originates rises, takes birth and develops from [volitional] formations.
"Bhikkhus, from what do [volitional] formations originate, rise, take birth and develop?
"[Volitional] Formations originate, rise, take birth and develop from ignorance.
.....Whole Lotta Birthin' Goin On....