Sanghamitta wrote:The issue isnt the commonalities.....its the later lurches into fantasy fiction.
Ñāṇa wrote:Sanghamitta wrote:The issue isnt the commonalities.....its the later lurches into fantasy fiction.
So for you the common Nāthadeva/Metteyya stuff is legit but any other devas with bodhisattva or buddha qualities abiding in other world systems is absolutely impossible and therefore illegitimate?
Sanghamitta wrote:Nana why do you care what I think....?
Sanghamitta wrote:And the only difference between myself and most other Theravadins is that I am not diplomatic about it on the record.
"And how are there four kinds of verbal conduct not in accordance with the Dhamma, unrighteous conduct?
Here someone speaks falsehood: when summoned to a court or to a meeting, or to his relatives' presence, or to his guild, or to the royal family's presence, and questioned as a witness thus, 'So, good man, tell what you know,' then, not knowing, he says 'I know,' or knowing, he says 'I do not know,' not seeing, he says 'I see,' or seeing, he says 'I do not see'; in full awareness he speaks falsehood for his own ends or for another's ends or for some trifling worldly end.
He speaks maliciously: he is a repeater elsewhere of what is heard here for the purpose of causing division from these, or he is a repeater to these of what is heard elsewhere for the purpose of causing division from those, and he is thus a divider of the united, a creator of divisions, who enjoys discord, rejoices in discord, delights in discord, he is a speaker of words that create discord.
He speaks harshly: he utters such words as are rough, hard, hurtful to others, censorious of others, bordering on anger and unconducive to concentration.
He is a gossip: as one who tells that which is unseasonable, that which is not fact, that which is not good, that which is not the Dhamma, that which is not the Discipline, and he speaks out of season speech not worth recording, which is unreasoned, indefinite, and unconnected with good. That is how there are four kinds of verbal conduct not in accordance with the Dhamma, unrighteous conduct."
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .nymo.html
Sanghamitta wrote:This idea that "clinging" is somehow the antichrist of Buddhism should be treated with great care. For a start very few people actually clarify what they mean by clinging as though it is self explanatory. It isnt.
Some of the most obvious clinging I see is from people who cling to the idea that not clinging is the raison d'etre of Buddhadhamma. It isnt,
Sanghamitta wrote:We can all quote selected verses out of context to show that our particular concern is most central. The current preoccupation of the online Buddhist community is clinging. That needs to be seen in context and balanced with other factors. there is also the issue of translation. "Clinging" isnt very good.
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