Buddha Nature ?

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby PeterB » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:21 pm

Please feel free to ignore my ungrounded opinions and generalisations. They are opinions. They are not scholarly essays. :tongue:
I have no intention in a non scholarly discussion thread characterised pretty much by subjective opinions to attempt to present a coherent arguement. I am just shooting the breeze based on things experiential. If you find that useful. fine. If you dont.. fine.
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Ban who or what ?

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby BlackBird » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:01 pm

Here's another avenue for discussion in this topic: Ajahn Mun (according to Ajahn Maha Boowa & friends)

If you've read Ajahn Mun's spiritual biography, it's clear to see the atta cropping up, especially in that scene where Ajahn Mun supposedly attains arahantship and all the Buddhas and Arahants come back from Nibbana to speak to him and congratulate him on his attainment. Furthermore the way they describe 'citta' throughout the book definitely verges on eternal-self, which is unchanging.

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:21 pm

Hi Jack

The biography of Ajahn Mun is not consensual among his disciples.

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He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:09 am

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby BlackBird » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:34 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby jcsuperstar » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:39 am

it's also similar to ajahn chah's poo roo "one who knows"

i think ajahn sujato makes an interesting observation about this though

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

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My recently moved Blog, containing some of my writings on the Buddha Dhamma, as well as a number of translations from classical Buddhist texts and modern authors, liturgy, etc.: .

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My recently moved Blog, containing some of my writings on the Buddha Dhamma, as well as a number of translations from classical Buddhist texts and modern authors, liturgy, etc.: .

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby christopher::: » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:33 am

Related to Tilt's observations, there's a new thread in the the Dhamic-Free-for-All forum. We can also revive over there if the moderators feel this conversation is drifting too far out of the bounds of "Discovering Theravada"...

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby christopher::: » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:34 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby Paññāsikhara » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:43 am

While actually looking for something quite different, I managed to stumble over this, by Prof Jamie Hubbard.

Shows up, for example, a range of different takes on whether there is much in the way of "thing-ness" there. And, even when there is, to what extent and whether or not it is similar to the Upanisads (for instance).
One can cut to the chase scene at pg. 11.
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Re: Buddha Nature ?

Postby christopher::: » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:22 pm

Looks really interesting. Thanks for that, Venerable Huifeng.

:anjali:
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009


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