MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?

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MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?

Postby cooran » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:11 pm

Hello all,

I was startled to come across this article .... not sure what to think.

MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES
http://www.shelfari.com/groups/24709/di ... MMAD-(PBUH)-IN-BUDDHIST-SCRIPTURES

Thoughts?

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Re: MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?

Postby Agent » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:55 pm

Although the author obviously put quite a bit of effort into picking and choosing quotes and comparisons, I don't think the s/he makes much of an argument. Major religions and religious figures tend to have a few things in common. Some people like to read a lot into that. I think it just says something about the general qualities we find important in religious leaders.

Plus you'd have to completely ignore the whole advocacy of a creator god thing (which as far as I can tell is pretty important to Islam).
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Postby Modus.Ponens » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:30 pm

Yes, I'm with tilt: this is silliness.

It was probably writen by a Bahai folower. They are well intentioned good people (there's at least one in DW). Unfortunately, Mohammad (P*ss be upon him) was the oposite of a Buddha, a being consumate in virtue.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Postby cooran » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:03 pm

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He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
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Postby Kenshou » Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:37 am

Pbuh?

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Postby cooran » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:23 am

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Postby cooran » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:30 am

Hello all,

His Holiness speaks on finding common ground between Islam and Buddhism
"It is my hope that on the basis of this common ground, followers of each tradition may come to appreciate the spiritual truths their different paths entail and from this develop a basis for respect for each others’ practice and beliefs. This may not have occurred very often before, because there has been so little opportunity for real understanding between these two great traditions".
http://www.tibet.net/en/index.php?id=15 ... news&tab=1

And you may benefit by reading:
A People facing Buddhist Violence over Centuries
Myanmar (formerly known as Burma) has a population of 48 million, 15 percent of whom are Muslims. Most of the rest are Buddhists. The Muslims live in the Arakan region of the country.
Arakan is the country's richest region in terms of oil and natural gas deposits, and its people first came to Islam by means of Arab merchants. This turning towards Islam culminated with the establishment of an Islamic state in 1430. This state survived for 350 years, until the Buddhists put an end to it by conquering Arakan.
Immediately after the Muslims lost political power in 1783, the Burmese Buddhists embarked on a policy of oppressing and even physically eliminating them. The country was then colonized by the British towards the end of the nineteenth century.
The anti-Muslim campaign waged by the Buddhists gained momentum in the twentieth century, and there was a terrible massacre in Arakan in 1942 which resulted in the deaths of 100,000 Muslims, and left hundreds of thousands either crippled or forced to flee their land.
MORE AT:
http://www.rohingya.org/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=43

And, of course, we know of the Tamils in Sri Lanka and their treatment over the centuries by buddhists which led to the terrible rebellion/civil war over the last decades. Buddhist Fundamentalism is growing stronger in Sri Lanka.

But ~ does this make all Buddhists members of a hateful religion ... does this reflect on the Founder of that religion ~ or is it the individuals who commit the actions who are filled with delusion and hate?

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Postby retrofuturist » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:59 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Postby cooran » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:11 am

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Re: MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?

Postby Marge » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:53 pm

Buddhism has many things in common with most religions. Except, unlike some religions with a god, the buddha himself should not and did not want to be idolized, revered. It is a practice, not a dogma. He is a representation only to remind us of a path we can try out for ourselves. Why is it important whether Muhammad is similar? Are we really waiting for the next buddha to appear? Do we want to make everyone a practicing buddhist - Yes, kind of, because we want peace, and a good life for all as soon as possible. But, I do not remember proselytizing being one of the teachings, and this is right. It may be slower to evolve, but if there is a desire to control, it probably wouldn't work anyway. What are our motives for combining religions?

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Re: MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:03 pm

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)


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