jcsuperstar wrote:also just to throw this out there, don't assume just because text are similar that they borrowed from one another or that if it's Hindu then it had to come first.
OcTavO wrote:Freawaru wrote:Except for the term "self" the whole Bhaghavad Gita is very "Buddhist" if you ask me.
Really? I haven't read the Bhaghavad Gita, could you recommend a reliable translation?
Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world.
Accepting this vision the demoniac being deficient in spiritual intelligence having lost contact with their soul ; degradedly engage in abominable activities to influence the destruction of the universe.
The demoniac, taking shelter of insatiable lust, pride and false prestige, and being thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work, attracted by the impermanent.
The Blessed Lord said: Fearlessness, purification of one's existence, cultivation of spiritual knowledge, charity, self-control, performance of sacrifice, study of the Vedas, austerity and simplicity; nonviolence, truthfulness, freedom from anger; renunciation, tranquility, aversion to faultfinding, compassion and freedom from covetousness; gentleness, modesty and steady determination; vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, freedom from envy and the passion for honor--these transcendental qualities, O son of Bharata, belong to godly men endowed with divine natur
Arrogance, pride, anger, conceit, harshness and ignorance--these qualities belong to those of demoniac nature, O son of Prtha.
The transcendental qualities are conducive to liberation, whereas the demoniac qualities make for bondage. Do not worry, O son of Pandu, for you are born with the divine qualities.
tiltbillings wrote:And the Gita goes on,
Eeew, disco. Gita is the Sanskrit word for song.Sobeh wrote:tiltbillings wrote:And the Gita goes on,
I started humming "And The Beat Goes On" by The Whispers.
Maybe two or three of the major Upanishads were exrtant at the time of the Buddha. The Upanishads do not present a singular view, but rather they presenta variety of views on things of life and death and liberation. Much of what the Upanishads are doing is a taking from the non-Vedic forest tradtion of which Buddhism and Jainism were a part.I do want to mention one thing, which is that the early Upanisads and the Dhamma were both being formulated around the same time, and the dearth of textual evidence from the era offers the possibility that the textual borrowing went both ways. As an example, it is possible that the Upanisads are where the Suttas get the ## Marks of a Man bits, as well as the kasina disc meditations.
Cite: Wynne, Alexander. The Origins of Buddhist Meditation. (London & New York: Routledge, 2007).
OcTavO wrote:are there other examples where the two traditions converge as closely as this?