Just a reminder to please keep criticisms/accusations of non/false attainment to this thread:http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5569
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Intentions of this thread is to discuss the benefits of scientific study of jhana/fruition states of meditation.
Mind and Life tend to limit things to certain emotional states related to areas of the brain. As far as I know, they've never tested an "enlightened persons" hypothesis, yet. Just things like "people who meditate a lot (10 000s of hrs) on loving kindness, can make part X of the brain light up on a scan, in a manner that non-meditators are totally unable to do". That sort of thing...
That is my point completely. From my limited understanding, there hasn't been much study on the Theravada side of practice, most studies have been on Tibetan monks.
In regards to just 'lighting up certain parts of the brains' does not cut it for me.
I was hoping for a bit more 'hardcore' results.
This is an extract from "Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond" by Ajahn Brahm:http://www.wisdom-books.com/ProductExtract.asp?PID=15340
A lay disciple once told me how, completely by chance, he had fallen into a deep jhana while meditating at home. His wife thought he had died and sent for an ambulance. He was rushed to hospital in a loud wail of sirens. In the emergency room, no heartbeat registered on the EGG, and no brain activity was seen by the EEG. So the doctor on duty put defibrillators on his chest to reactivate his heart. Even though he was being bounced up and down on the hospital bed through the force of the electric shocks, he didn’t feel a thing. When he emerged from the jhana in the emergency room, perfectly all right, he had no knowledge of how he had got there, nothing of ambulances and sirens, nothing of body-jerking defibrillators. All that long time that he was in jhana, he was fully aware, but only of bliss. This is an example of what is meant by the five senses shutting down within the experience of jhana
Imagine if this this can be recreated and observed under controlled conditions for scientific studies, I'm sure much benefit will arise out this. Not only does it scientifically verify countless Buddhist practitioners' experience for the past 2500 years.
The implications for the development of science in this area will be huge.