Satori wrote:Goedert wrote:The Buddha said that all the suffering and purification is caused by oneself and just self alone.
If it depends on us alone , why did the Buddha bother teaching and preaching? It seems strange he said that , if he believes there is no-self.
nowheat wrote:nowheat wrote: Craving is the cause of our suffering and it is ended by ending ignorance; ignorance is the cause of our suffering. They are one and the same.
I misworded that conclusion. Ignorance and craving aren't the same they are just two halves of a whole. To end craving you have to understand what ignorance consists of, to end ignorance you have to understand what craving does (causes suffering).
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