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Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Hanzze » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:37 am

http://www.what-buddha-taught.net/Books9/Ajahn_Amaro_Small-Boat_Great-Mountain.pdf

When the Arahant goes Bodhisattva... what ever connects the Sangha is good.
Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby plwk » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:03 am

Hanzze wrote:...what ever connects the Sangha is good.

Yeah like the latest IPAD...
Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Hanzze » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:56 am

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Last edited by Hanzze on Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby cooran » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:47 am

Thanks for posting the link to Ajahn Amaro's book, Hanzze.

After reading it years ago, I began attending a Dzogchen group (following Chogyal Namkhai Norbu) here and saw many similarities between Theravada and Dzogchen.

In the end, I came back to the bare-bones, do-it-yourself, Theravada rather than the later, more distant in time from the Buddha, Dzogchen teachings.
I have an admiration and respect for Dzogchen.

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Spiny O'Norman » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:22 am

cooran wrote:I have an admiration and respect for Dzogchen.


Me too. I was a Dzogchen practitioner for many years and have subsequently observed quite a lot of common ground with Therevada. On balance though I prefer the relatively simplicity of Therevada, and there is less to remember. ;)

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Hanzze » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:55 pm

_/\_
Last edited by Hanzze on Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Ben » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:35 pm

Hanzze wrote:PS: I also would be happy to see the topic not rotten in the lounge - just out of respect to the content and not my person. I know a monkey tread, but... :-)

I placed the thread in the lounge Hanzze as it is the most appropriate forum for this particular topic.
Being in the lounge is not an indication of the thread's quality.
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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Hanzze » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:40 am

_/\_
Last edited by Hanzze on Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:47 am, edited 2 times in total.
Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Ben » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:43 am

Hanzze, its time to return to topic.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby erniefernandez » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:23 pm

On the subject of conciliatory comparison and contrast between Mahayana and Theravada is this absolutely excellent article by the Maha Thera Awsum Oldie Bhikkhu Bodhi.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ttvas.html

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Hanzze » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:22 am

Thanks for sharing this article Erniefernandez! _/\_
Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Tibetian Dzogchen and Thai Theravada

Postby Hanzze » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:29 am

Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_


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