A mad thought

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A mad thought

Postby Individual » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:06 am

What if the four imponderables are in fact imponderable because what lies beyond is madness in reality?

In other words: Pondering these things leads to madness, not because there is no answer but because what lies beyond are crazy things. Understanding the madness which lies beyond is knowledge of the madness, which is bewildering. To ask these questions is like falling down the rabbit hole of Alice in Wonderland.

Perhaps the universe is like a bubble of orderly laws in a sea of chaos; a bubble of "things" and "reactions," like a pinball machine.
The best things in life aren't things.

The Diamond Sutra

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Re: A mad thought

Postby Dan74 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:15 am

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Re: A mad thought

Postby plwk » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:27 am

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Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: A mad thought

Postby Paul Davy » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:37 am

Greetings Individual,

Individual wrote:In other words: Pondering these things leads to madness, not because there is no answer but because what lies beyond are crazy things. Understanding the madness which lies beyond is knowledge of the madness, which is bewildering. To ask these questions is like falling down the rabbit hole of Alice in Wonderland.

It seems unlikely, since the Buddha did not go loopy.

I think the standard interpretation that "conjecture leading to madness and vexation" is sufficient. In other words, it'll do your head in to try to work these things out... and either you won't be able to do it, or it would serve no productive purpose even if you could.

Metta,
Retro. :)
What is the final conviction that comes when radical attention is razor-edge sharp? That the object of the mind is mind-made (manomaya). (Ven. Ñāṇananda)

Having understood name-and-form, which is a product of prolificity,
And which is the root of all malady within and without,
He is released from bondage to the root of all maladies,
That Such-like-one is truly known as 'the one who has understood'.
(Snp 3.6)

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Re: A mad thought

Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:50 am

If nothing sticks to teflon,what makes teflon stick to the bottom of a frying pan? :shrug:
And crawling on the planets face,some insects called the human race.
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Re: A mad thought

Postby fabianfred » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:28 am

Nanadhaja wrote:If nothing sticks to teflon,what makes teflon stick to the bottom of a frying pan? :shrug:

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Re: A mad thought

Postby alan » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:33 am

What? all the crazies come out tonight?
You'd think there is a full moon. Oh, wait...


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