Do phenomena happen in Asia that do not happen in Europe or the USA ?
Do they not happen but have a psychological/cultural explanation as to why it is widely believed that they do ?
And perhaps most importantly...do they matter either way..are they necessary to an understanding of Dhamma ?
andre9999 wrote:I prefer skeptic over cynic. In the case of the deva photo thread, I've seen thousands of doctored photos. I have yet to come across a deva. Maybe they don't get to the Americas much.
As far as its importance, I'd say the questions that come up in many of the threads lack a direct impact in anything, much less enlightenment. But I'm also not inclined to jump in as the second post in every thread and say, "Why are you asking? Just go meditate." There are some people who over-think things - a lot - but maybe it helps drive their practice. Similarly, there are types of people who's practice is probably strengthened by knowing that there are devas stopping by a temple. Good for them, I say. Whatever works.
PeterB wrote:That could cut several ways couldnt it ? What about those who are drawn to Dhamma , then come across pictures of "devas" and decide that they will stick to good old rationalism, thank you very much ?
Goofaholix wrote:Thais...routinely see ghosts, westerners don't.
appicchato wrote:Whenever the topic arises I usually ask the Thai (who's brought the subject up) if they've ever seen one...and have yet to hear in the affirmative...
Sacha G wrote:Hi,
If some of you want to read serious things on parapsychology, go to the society for psychical research website, and to the liste of recommended reading:
http://www.spr.ac.uk/main/page/recommen ... psychology
Well, to find an analogy, not only no one has ever seen somebody being murdered,
but people who speak of murder haven't either. That doesn't murder doesn't exist. It's only rare enough. But that's an extrem case, and parapsychology is actually widespread. I think 1 american out of 10 has had an Out of Body Experience for example.
I suppose on this very website some have had one.
In a summary that has become well known she said " My conclusions concur with the Buddhist Anatta view...there is nothing to leave the body and no where for it it go ".
PeterB wrote:Perhaps Sacha G you could point to the Sutta which describes the existence of an astral body ?
Specifically where would you posit an "astral body" in the schemata of the khandhas ?
- Cetana Sutta: Intention"What one intends, what one arranges, and what one obsesses about: This is a support for the stationing of consciousness. There being a support, there is a landing of consciousness. When that consciousness lands and grows, there is the production of renewed becoming in the future. When there is the production of renewed becoming in the future, there is future birth, aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. Such is the origination of this entire mass of suffering & stress."
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